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ICDEDPPL 12-02-2015 03:35 PM

My other option is just to resize my current rods and call it a day . Figured if I sell my current rods I wouldn`t be into new rods for too much more but I do have a lot of stuff to buy so saving a few bucks is always on the table

horsepower1 12-02-2015 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4381645)
I see you guys suggest this a lot. Since Molnar imports his stuff, also, and finish machines in house, what makes there stuff better ? It's a serious question, nothing more since I have never really heard of them other than from your shop.


Manley has been around for a long time making some killer stuff. Extreme example I was able to see during terdowns, A friend had a sbc set on his AMC 401 turning 10k.

I've spent quite a bit of time on the phone with Tom Molnar. One of the nicest guys I've ever talked to and he was very generous in giving me detailed explanations on what makes his rods different. Web thickness, beam design, and proprietary design on his bolts are a few highlights. He holds very tight tolerances with his finishing as well. Tightest I've seen. Nothing wrong with Manley rods, they're just not any different than any other of the mentioned above imports. All these import rods are way strong...the weak link in any rod will be the bolt. Rods seldom break unless something is really out of whack, but rod bolt failure is all to common. And FWIW, I don't have a problem that any of these are import. IMO a good part is a good part and for the money, any of them are hard to beat. You just have to inspect them closely. I've seen a lot of tolerance issues, finish issues, things like bearing tang placement, taper in the big ends, lots of sharp edges and burrs...this is where they save their money. Kinda like the "out of the box cylinder head" thread...I don't look at these rods as ready to run. The Molnars, yes.

Full Force 12-02-2015 04:18 PM

I could be wrong, but to me the similar priced stuff is all basically the same and and finish work makes them perfect, now spending more money gets the better part like always, I am not sure the HP limits of the Eagles, but I will think they are similar as other similar priced rods and probably freshen what you have, I did the 2000 series bolts in my Eagles since guys said that was the weakest link..

I think HP +RPM is where you need to look at, the rods will take much more at lower rpm vs higher..

I will say the rods were much nicer then the cranks from Eagle, my rods were very close in grams when balancing.. Ray said he didn't have to do much to make them the same


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4381662)
My other option is just to resize my current rods and call it a day . Figured if I sell my current rods I wouldn`t be into new rods for too much more but I do have a lot of stuff to buy so saving a few bucks is always on the table


vintage chromoly 12-02-2015 04:22 PM

I believe the Manley rods are forged overseas but finished in New Jersey.

Full Force 12-02-2015 04:25 PM

I think balancing has everything to do with rotating assemblys living, I did things with stock 302 stuff in my Fords that people said would not live like spinning cast rods and crank to 6700 rpm all the time... lived for years....

ICDEDPPL 12-02-2015 04:26 PM

^^^^


They come standard with 190,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP 8740 (750 Horsepower rating) and 230,000 psi rated, 7/16 ARP 2000 rod bolts (1200 horsepower rating) or 265,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP L-19 bolts (1500 Horsepower rating) as upgrades


Really thou it all comes down to the rpm, stroke, and piston weight, NOT so much HP. I`ve had no issues with the 8740 at 900HP.

Full Force 12-02-2015 04:29 PM

exactly, I think if the ratings are there why spend the money on new? refresh and go!!


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4381677)
^^^^


They come standard with 190,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP 8740 (750 Horsepower rating) and 230,000 psi rated, 7/16 ARP 2000 rod bolts (1200 horsepower rating) or 265,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP L-19 bolts (1500 Horsepower rating) as upgrades


Really thou it all comes down to the rpm, stroke, and piston weight, NOT so much HP. I`ve had no issues with the 8740 at 900HP.


MILD THUNDER 12-02-2015 04:38 PM

I have manley's with ARP2000 bolts. They are still connecting my piston to the crank. I like them very much, and thank them often for their services.

Interceptor 12-02-2015 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4381677)
^^^^


They come standard with 190,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP 8740 (750 Horsepower rating) and 230,000 psi rated, 7/16 ARP 2000 rod bolts (1200 horsepower rating) or 265,000 psi rated 7/16 ARP L-19 bolts (1500 Horsepower rating) as upgrades


Really thou it all comes down to the rpm, stroke, and piston weight, NOT so much HP. I`ve had no issues with the 8740 at 900HP.

Those bolts are no better then the threads in the rods.

F-2 Speedy 12-02-2015 04:46 PM

I like it when my piston stays connected to my crank :santa:


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