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Old 01-07-2016, 08:49 PM
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the cam bearings are not pressure lubed?
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
the cam bearings are not pressure lubed?
No hole in the outer shell
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
the cam bearings are not pressure lubed?
No.
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Originally Posted by SB
Absolutely no experience here, just round table thinking out loud talk.

The lifters and cam lobes are getting oiled right ? Of course...so, this could be plenty of oil getting to the cam bearing.

Back to 2 strokes and roller bearing connecting rod and cranks, remember, they are using 60:1 - 70:1 fuelil ratios now. This means the roller bearings are seeing 60 to 70 parts fuel to 1 part oil, and surviving. Also remember, this is all in crankcase 'windage mist' - no splash and no direct oiling. Fuel is a cleaner, not to mention the stergents in pump fuel and the dtergents in the oil itself. Yes, some of us older blowhards are modifying our oil systems to get back to old school 50:1 ratios with our 2 strokes, but this is more for piston protection. These are spinning 8000-10,000 crank rpm vs camshafts which in a 4 stroke the cam spins 1/2 crank speed.

The only roller crank bearing failures in 2 trokes are usually because they are not large enough for the forces they see. In these applications, when larger bearings are used, problems go away. Anyone tell that I'm a Polaris guy ? Hah !

Ending my out loud thinking, I would call Dart. Your worry may become a non worry....Hopefully. LOL.
Think about the atmosphere inside a running engine's crank case with all the oil being thrown off the crank and rods. The bottom of the cam tunnel is open to the crank case and as you said, there is a lot of oil coming off the lifters as well. There is plenty of oil for the roller cam bearings. They don't function on a pressurized wedge of oil like a babbitt bearing.
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We have been using the roller cam bearings for years. No issues but not likely worth but a few HP.
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Originally Posted by Black Baja
No hole in the outer shell
would there be any harm in drilling a very small hole in it?
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
would there be any harm in drilling a very small hole in it?
that cage is hardened,,more like edm or grind a hole.
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Originally Posted by BenPerfected
We have been using the roller cam bearings for years. No issues but not likely worth but a few HP.
yeah,I wouldn't go out of my way to put them in.built a whole lot of 1000-1200hp whipple motors that use the convention cam bearing set up.
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
would there be any harm in drilling a very small hole in it?
Probably ruin the bearing. Besides, there's no need.
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so is the blocks oiling changed for this then ? I know std block does lube cam/lifters/rockers...
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