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Scott, have you got numbers for an ootb afr 325 on your bench?
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Originally Posted by HaxbySpeed
(Post 4414851)
Scott, have you got numbers for an ootb afr 325 on your bench?
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Originally Posted by horsepower1
(Post 4414903)
I'll look and see when I'm back at the shop. I might...
they probably didn't perform as advertised,but you fixed them up right,huh. |
Originally Posted by sutphen 30
(Post 4414935)
or you could just make some up.
they probably didn't perform as advertised,but you fixed them up right,huh. |
kind of looks like deep seated hatred,they must have some history we don,t know about.i take no sides cause i like both of them.
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
(Post 4414976)
i take no sides cause i like both of them.
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Originally Posted by Rookie
(Post 4415006)
Ditto. I really like S30 and have always respected his opinions and knowledge, Ive used a lot of it lol. horspower1 is new and an acquaintance of cstraub so I think that's where the shots are coming from. I'm just sick of all of the shots at everyone here. OSO has turned into a waste of my time now. I log in most days, but I'm now logged off within 5 mins. I use to think of OSO as some of the most knowledgeable adults on the internet. How dumb was I...
It's everywhere. The whole world is going to sh.t. Rarely a day goes by where I'm not litterally shocked at humans behaviors. Is it the chemtrails, vaccines or food and water were consuming??? |
Or the political environment we all live in...
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Welcome to Salem, home of the witch hunt... We have a few residents who are not happy unless they are burning someone at the stake. We used to have a lot more residents,happy fun smart residents, but a lot of them left because they were sick of the stench of burning flesh.
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Originally Posted by donzi matt
(Post 4414970)
You just can't wait to take a $hit on this guy at every turn, can you?
and fyi,I'm just giving it back to him as he does to others.If I or anyone not on their side pulled half the misinformation these idea stealers repost,he would bash them to death.Hax will find out in a few years when his combos get retold by them(as their own).Its in their play book. just look at the new Driven Oil thread,BUP already posted that info 2 yrs ago.but now he tries to claim some new finding.Plus he could have just put up the article and not plug his buddies website,,do believe thats not accepted on this forum. |
Im sure haxby is capable of forming his own opinion. He simply asked if foxwell had flowed a set of 325 afrs.
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Just thought I'd post this for all to see. I can't support the authenticity of however take a look.
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Just a quick FYI. If you're going to use the Merc oil pain and dipstick, the EQ heads do not have the 1/4 20 hole in the head to the upper right hand side of the exhaust port and you'll need to drill and tap the head.
It's an easy fix, just an FYI for those who are adding these heads. [ATTACH=CONFIG]553587[/ATTACH] |
^^^ I used a step bit, opened the hole up on the dipstick hanger and moved it to the front
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Originally Posted by endeavor1
(Post 4424999)
^^^ I used a step bit, opened the hole up on the dipstick hanger and moved it to the front
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4424984)
Just a quick FYI. If you're going to use the Merc oil pain and dipstick, the EQ heads do not have the 1/4 20 hole in the head to the upper right hand side of the exhaust port and you'll need to drill and tap the head.
It's an easy fix, just an FYI for those who are adding these heads. [ATTACH=CONFIG]553587[/ATTACH] |
Originally Posted by Mr Maine
(Post 4425011)
One other annoying thing is all the accessories on the GM heads were 7/16 bolts, and the Darts are all 3/8. Just adds more time especially when doing two engines.
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Overall, I'm pretty happy with the purchase. While they flow better than my old heads, I like that but more importantly though, I am much more happy about the work setting the heads up this time around.
Last shop, I paid good money, like 2500 to rebuild two sets of dart heads for me. They installed new valve seats, which was half azzed done, weren't even the right seats for those heads, they probably had them laying around the shop, and installed them. Install heights were all over the map, some at 2.020, some at 2.050 , some at 2.000, not a single shim anywhere to make up any differences. Using a .680 ID locator, with a .740 spring inner ID, which was causing the spring to wear on the valve seals, retainers and locators showed signs of severe spring rotation, cutting into the steel on them. and set the springs up over 1/4 inch from coil bind. The new shop I used, set everything up beautifully. No more varying install heights, springs setup .090 from coil bind. Each spring was individually tested for consistant pressure, and coil bind , which actually resulted in finding 1 incorrect spring in the batch of 32 that got slipped in the new packaging. We opted to run without the little spring on the exhaust valve seals, like merc did on their supercharged engines, getting a little more oil to the ex guides. Added stud girdles, and replaced the crane alum rockers with Comp's new Ultra Pro Mag XD steel rockers. |
I think steel rockers are the way to go. Bad application for aluminums fatigue life.
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If you get your valvetrain sorted and spin those babies up, you should make some big power.
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I like those rockers a lot and I've been running them for about 5-6 years now. I used to run the hi-tech 1620's but changed to the 1625 Utra Pro Magnums when they came out. They also give a lot more clearance under the valves. Also running them on the MPI's I'm building.
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4425551)
I like those rockers a lot and I've been running them for about 5-6 years now. I used to run the hi-tech 1620's but changed to the 1625 Utra Pro Magnums when they came out. They also give a lot more clearance under the valves. Also running them on the MPI's I'm building.
It was a tough call being a cheap bastard as I am, but went with the "XD"s anyway. Good to hear someone else is using them with good results. |
Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4415294)
Just thought I'd post this for all to see. I can't support the authenticity of however take a look.
Eppic disappointment. I had the chance to do a back-to-back flow comparison comparing factory "advertised" numbers with actual flow numbers from a SF600 with a FlowCom and Audi swirl meter, 4.500 bore fixture, and see just what the truth is. Heads are a good comparison for competitors: Dart Pro1 310 as cast, bare, from Dart AFR 305 as cast, assembled from AFR Dart 310, valve job from Dart, REV 2.25 intake no backcut, REV 1.88 Inconel ex (tulip style valve), advertised intake @ 28" .800 (all they give you from Dart) 369 cfm. Truth: Left/right/ex .2 140/141/111 .3 207/207/151 .4 271/271/192 .5 322/312/227 .6 351/329/254 .7 365/329/271 .8 341/335/281 The left port is not a mis-print. Very disappointing. Next: AFR 305 as-cast, assembled from AFR with their valves, 2.25 intake with backcut (angle unknown) AFR 1.88 exhaust. AFR as-cast advertised: right/ex .2 154/131 .3 223/176 .4 287/219 .5 335/251 .6 363/276 .7--------- Truth: right/left/ex .2 146/143/109 .3 209/210/144 .4 268/276/185 .5 324/327/223 .6 366/336/250 .7 361/343/262 .8 ---/345/271 The bowls are nicely CNC blended but transition from the seat to the chamber is terrible. The exhaust port I believe suffers far worse because of this than the intake. |
So was the afr' left/right int the same?
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Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4425601)
So was the afr' left/right int the same?
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One other small FYI on the EQ heads. My standard spark plug socket does not fit in the recessed area so I could not use a spark plug socket to install the plugs. I had to use a standard socket with a thin wall in order to install them. Just a heads up.
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4426221)
One other small FYI on the EQ heads. My standard spark plug socket does not fit in the recessed area so I could not use a spark plug socket to install the plugs. I had to use a standard socket with a thin wall in order to install them. Just a heads up.
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Originally Posted by mild thunder
(Post 4426222)
what plugs are you using?
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Strange. I just tried two different spark plug sockets, a craftsman and off brand, both fit fine.
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Snap-on socket works fine.
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Ran into same thing on my AFRs and KRE Pontiac heads, one of the 2 i had to even reduce the OD of a good snapon socket to get it in plug recess
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4426298)
Strange. I just tried two different spark plug sockets, a craftsman and off brand, both fit fine.
Originally Posted by articfriends
(Post 4426311)
Ran into same thing on my AFRs and KRE Pontiac heads, one of the 2 i had to even reduce the OD of a good snapon socket to get it in plug recess
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The EQ's have a nice crackle...
https://youtu.be/2FlgQjgyc5Q |
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4431102)
The EQ's have a nice crackle...
https://youtu.be/2FlgQjgyc5Q |
Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4431102)
The EQ's have a nice crackle...
https://youtu.be/2FlgQjgyc5Q |
Originally Posted by Gimme Fuel
(Post 4431262)
Sounds real nice! What cam and expected HP?
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You gonna dyno it Frank?
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4431274)
You gonna dyno it Frank?
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Originally Posted by Panther
(Post 4431276)
Planning on it.
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Originally Posted by articfriends
(Post 4426311)
Ran into same thing on my AFRs and KRE Pontiac heads, one of the 2 i had to even reduce the OD of a good snapon socket to get it in plug recess
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