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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:11 PM
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#1 cyl intake

Does this show the pushrod is a little too long?

what about the marks only on the forward 2/3rds of the stem. Is this ok? I ground the stems and tried to get them real flat.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:13 PM
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#3 cyl exhaust

marks look ok front/back but looks like it also shows a little too long of a pushrod.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:17 PM
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cyl #3 intake

marks only on the forward half. ?????

looks like it is closer to the right pushrod but maybe still a little too long. ???????

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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:31 PM
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you ground the stems to get them flat? by hand with a grinder? then they are nowhere near flat. they need to be machined flat and micropolished. I think the valves need to come out and have the tips refinished.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:33 PM
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Pattern look fine to me, i wouldnt be afraid to run it.

You could try a shorter pushrod on the intake, but my guess, is that the pattern is going to get wider by doing so.

That doesnt help your issue though, of the polylocks having very little thread engagement. What i have done in the past, is use a hardened washer, like an arp head bolt washer , under the stud. That was with regular 7/16 stud mount arp studs, that had a little longer bottom shanks.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:33 PM
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I measured my pushrods close as i could and got

intake 7 and 21/32" that's 7.656" just dividing the fraction
exhaust 8 and 21/32" 8.656"

stock rods per Mercury marine for my particular serial number engine is
intake 7.592" so mine are 0.064" too long
exhaust 8.569" mine are 0.087 too long

from the looks of the marks a slightly shorter rods should do it. Unfortunately no store here in town stocked a push rod adjustable checker so I went ahead and in the interest of time, ordered new GM pushrods at a decent price through a chev dealer i know and will be here tomorrow.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by articfriends
I just spent 30 minutes scouring the internet, your right, a 3/8ths by 7/16 stud does not appear to exist, something funky with those rocker arms is my guess, try a crane gold or equivalent and see how many threads you have.
I spent 2 minutes...http://www.competitionproducts.com/G.../#.Vxqmu872Zjo
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
you ground the stems to get them flat? by hand with a grinder? then they are nowhere near flat. they need to be machined flat and micropolished. I think the valves need to come out and have the tips refinished.
I used a good valve grinding machine my brother uses frequently. I'm no expert but thought at the time I did them quite flat, grinding very slow and light at the finish. Just wandering if maybe only like a fraction of a thousandth would show up like that but not really be an issue.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:40 PM
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If you need a pair of adjustable pushrod I would check with the local independent Harley shops around.
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Old 04-22-2016 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Cap'm Kurt
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this pic looks like the fulcrum is upside down. you have another similar angle pic with no poly lock?
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