Mercruiser 502 mpi mag rich idle low vacuum new rebuild
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If it's the hyd roller 502 Mag:
If flat tappet
Originally Posted by sb
This is what I have listed for the hydraulic roller black Merc Mag Motors
Merc# 431-850478 / GM#12551622
.004 300*/ 300*
.006 288*/288*
.050” 225*/225*
.200” 125*/125*
Lift .483”/. 483”
ICL 109*
LSA 115.5*
Merc# 431-850478 / GM#12551622
.004 300*/ 300*
.006 288*/288*
.050” 225*/225*
.200” 125*/125*
Lift .483”/. 483”
ICL 109*
LSA 115.5*
Originally Posted by sb
Mag BBC 454/502 Flat Tappet (rect heads)
.004” 296*, 296*
.006” 286*, 286*
.050” 224*, 224*
.200” 130*, 130*
Valve lift with 1.7 .510”, .510”
LSA 115.5
Merc Part#431-9830 / GM#14096209
ICL 114 ATDC
ECL 117 BTDC
GM Part#10185060 (same as above but ground with 5 degrees advance)
ICL 109 ATDC
ECL 122 BTDC
.004” 296*, 296*
.006” 286*, 286*
.050” 224*, 224*
.200” 130*, 130*
Valve lift with 1.7 .510”, .510”
LSA 115.5
Merc Part#431-9830 / GM#14096209
ICL 114 ATDC
ECL 117 BTDC
GM Part#10185060 (same as above but ground with 5 degrees advance)
ICL 109 ATDC
ECL 122 BTDC
Last edited by SB; 07-09-2016 at 12:07 PM.
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UPDATE: I was told by another engine builder in our area that if the block had been decked and the heads shaved you must install adjustable rocker arms to make up for the difference, sounded pretty legit to me so I had my engine builder do that yesterday when I started the motor with the vacuum gauge on the motor it had 14 inches of pressure, I thought it was fixed so I took the gauge off and waited for the engine to warm up so that I could double check the timing, the engine was surging and started to run real rich so I put the vacuum gauge back on and we are back down to only 7 inches. Any ideas??
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Sounds like a valve seating issue. Seating when cold & loosing tappet clearance as temps rise. It will burn rich depending on how much compression is lost due to incorrect tappet clearances. Hear any vacuum leaks?
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UPDATE: I was told by another engine builder in our area that if the block had been decked and the heads shaved you must install adjustable rocker arms to make up for the difference, sounded pretty legit to me so I had my engine builder do that yesterday when I started the motor with the vacuum gauge on the motor it had 14 inches of pressure, I thought it was fixed so I took the gauge off and waited for the engine to warm up so that I could double check the timing, the engine was surging and started to run real rich so I put the vacuum gauge back on and we are back down to only 7 inches. Any ideas??
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Possibly still valves adjusted too tight. Once the lifters fill with oil pressure and are pumped up, they might not be allowing the valves to close all the way.
Last edited by Griff; 07-18-2016 at 12:54 PM.
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Tidewater - I just did a OSO forum post search of you to see if any history on this that you have not presented in this thread, and I found a lot.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...archid=3356677
For us to help, we need this history 'cleaned up' and presented on this current thread so we can be more knowledgeable on this issue and past issues that are probably interrelated to each other.
Also, please include things like if this engine was the previous one you had issues with, what they where, new boat to you, if ECU's are original or have been replaced by you or prevous owner, if any reprogramming has been done by you or previous owners, if superchargers or etc had been previously installed, etc, etc
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...archid=3356677
For us to help, we need this history 'cleaned up' and presented on this current thread so we can be more knowledgeable on this issue and past issues that are probably interrelated to each other.
Also, please include things like if this engine was the previous one you had issues with, what they where, new boat to you, if ECU's are original or have been replaced by you or prevous owner, if any reprogramming has been done by you or previous owners, if superchargers or etc had been previously installed, etc, etc
Last edited by SB; 07-18-2016 at 05:32 AM.
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No this is a new rebuild so that the previous issue with the port motor. The ECU is the same one that the boat came with and presumed to be stock, and has been swapped with the port motor to rule that out. Never had a super charger.