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Old 08-18-2016 | 06:55 PM
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Has there ever been a solution for the long cranking condition with these carbs on 454/7.4 engines ? Every discussion I find seems to die with no solution or suggestions to replace the carb, rebuild the carbs, check valves in tank or add electric fuel pumps.
Everything works fine until the boat sits for a few days and then the problem surfaces.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:13 PM
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let it sit a couple of days. take fuel line out of carb. add a short piece of hose and put into a bottle. crank. does it start pumping fuel immediately? or does it take about as long as the no-start takes? an AFB will fill enough to fire with about 2 shots of the fuel pump.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:31 PM
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2-3 days it starts immediately. Wait any longer and the problem arises.

Also I installed new mechanical fuel pumps last summer. No difference.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 07:40 PM
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It's leaking or evaporating. Best thing to do is remove after run. And check underneath a few times a day to look fora wet spot.

Quadrajets are more famous for this and the above is what I do. Usually, but not always, the little welch plugs.
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Old 08-18-2016 | 08:34 PM
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What and where is a Welch plug ?
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Old 08-19-2016 | 12:25 AM
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The pressed in plugs on the bottom of the carb. It's thought that the fuel seeps past these plugs and evaporates out of the intake when the boat sits for a few days.

I've fought the same issue for years with the same carb, I usually just squirt a couple of seconds of starting fluid into the flame arrestor after it sits for awhile to get it going quicker rather than cranking the engine forever.
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Old 08-19-2016 | 05:09 AM
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I always had better luck with mine by breaking myself of the habit of cranking the engine with the throttle partially or fully open. Return the throttle to the closed position after a pump or two and if the choke pull-off is set correctly it should pull in enough fuel for a reasonably quick start.

Still, I don't miss carbs one bit.
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Old 08-19-2016 | 05:48 AM
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fuel will evaporate sitting, the webers do not have the the plugs that leak like the Q-jets, want to start quick add electric fuel pump, and make sure the choke is working, they do not like to start without a choke, edelbrocks with elec choke are great bolt on replacements for std non performance applications
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Old 08-19-2016 | 07:15 AM
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The edelbrock carb is a weber (believe they bought them in the 90's? Still say weber on the casting). Agree with all of the above, the fuel is probably just evaporating out. Its hot, and the engine compartment is like an oven if the boat is in the sun covered.

My Formula 206 has an electric fuel pump, it can sit for weeks, I just turn on the fuel pump, let the bowl fill and it fires right up. Previously with the mechanical pump, I would have to crank it for about 10 seconds before it would fire if it had been sitting.
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Old 08-19-2016 | 08:10 AM
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The pressed in plugs on the bottom of the carb. It's thought that the fuel seeps past these plugs and evaporates out of the intake when the boat sits for a few days.

I've fought the same issue for years with the same carb, I usually just squirt a couple of seconds of starting fluid into the flame arrestor after it sits for awhile to get it going quicker rather than cranking the engine forever.
I've been doing the same with starting fluid. It only takes a quick squirt into the arrestor and the engine fires and fuel gets pulled into the carb. Trying to save long cranking on the starters.
Would like a fix though.
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