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Custom cam thread
Here's some "custom" cams for oso members that have been specd for their combos.
540ci AFR 325 heads 9.6:1 1050 CFM carb Single Plane 241/246 duration 112 LSA 109 ICL 681/663 540ci GM Rectangle Iron heads 9:1 800 CFM carb Single plane 239/246 113 LSA 108 ICL 646/639 540ci AFR 325 heads 9.8:1 1000CFM carb single plane 242/247 112 LSA 108 ICL 664/656 |
439CI
AFR 265 heads 10.4:1 950 CFM carb dual plane 234/240 112 LSA 108 ICL 630/615 496ci AFR 305 heads 237/243 113 LSA 108 ICL 663/664 500 EFI mercury 502 Dart 325 heads 9:1 237/239 113 LSA 109 ICL 639/630 |
This just in
555ci AFR 325 heads Procharged 10lbs boost 239/246 114 LSA 111 ICL 644/629 |
Here is mine if anyone cares
509CI Brodix 325's 8:1 5lbs boost 241/250 113LSA 110ICL 625/625 lift Makes 705 hp. idles like a Toyota Camry This is NOT a MK cam, it was ground by Bullet, so some of you probably know who spec'd it. |
You should also list if the cam worked or caused problems. We dont want somebody stumbling onthe the thread and copying something that doesnt work.....
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There's no need to send you mine. it's the same as the 496 you already posted.
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 4487789)
You should also list if the cam worked or caused problems. We dont want somebody stumbling onthe the thread and copying something that doesnt work.....
What I find interesting, is , the similarities between these camshafts. Whether we are talking about a 440ci big block, or a blown 555ci, there isn't a ton of difference in the cams. A 9:1 540 with GM heads, gets basically the same cam as a 540 with afr heads and nearly close to 10:1 static. And everyone thinks they are getting some one off highly detailed cam design for their "specific" package. :helmet: |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4487796)
And everyone thinks they are getting some one off highly detailed cam design for their "specific" package. :helmet:
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Currently running a 60watt bulb, may be upgrading to a 75watt bulb this winter......
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Originally Posted by Lee
(Post 4487837)
Currently running a 60watt bulb, may be upgrading to a 75watt bulb this winter......
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Originally Posted by Baja Rooster
(Post 4487844)
Any reversion issues with that light bulb sucking in negative electrons?
Does it emit light? or Does it absorb darkness? |
555ci JC Performance/Smith Power
Brodix 2x heads Roots blown 6lbs boost 262/272 112 LSA 109 ICL 708/708 Crane solid roller cam, lobe designs from track roller profiles. Using same cam in a 573 now :) Tried Comp Cams same specs, made more boost but less power so numbers don't always tell the whole story. |
Mines listed, did not make power, found issues..
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Originally Posted by SFOcean
(Post 4487880)
555ci JC Performance/Smith Power
Brodix 2x heads Roots blown 6lbs boost 262/272 112 LSA 109 ICL 708/708 Crane solid roller cam, lobe designs from track roller profiles. Using same cam in a 573 now :) Tried Comp Cams same specs, made more boost but less power so numbers don't always tell the whole story. Need more info :D |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4487752)
This just in
555ci AFR 325 heads Procharged 10lbs boost 239/246 114 LSA 111 ICL 644/629 |
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4487796)
What I find interesting, is , the similarities between these camshafts. Whether we are talking about a 440ci big block, or a blown 555ci, there isn't a ton of difference in the cams.
Originally Posted by JRider
(Post 4487979)
Wonder how much power is left on the table here? Looks like 651 would have worked better.
My camshaft WAS spec'd to work with the shortcomings of my particular build and may not be a good comparison to others I wanted a decent idle and it had to work with my marginal EMI exhaust.. I wasn't after MAXIMUM hp.. Just wanted decent reliable power... In fact, it made MORE hp than anticipated.. :) http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p...ps9thdxqlq.jpg No idea on the reliability factor yet though.. :( only have about 10 hours on it.. |
My first Bob motor build Circa 2009/2010:
540 CI 9.2 CR, AZSM Honed MPI intake, extra porting, Dart Iron Eagle 308's cleaned up, EMI thunder long riser exhaust. Never dynoed, ran real strong though. Short life due to assembly error (my fault). Was supposed to be 5600-5800 RPM peak promised 600 hp. Fuel use and tune to make happy supports that plus a bit extra. Actually was thinking of using this cam again on motors in new boat this spring since I still have it then having clone made. Prob just go with one of the Lunati grinds now. They look nice especially for the price. Next builds more budget minded. Standard firing order core# 315685 113.9 Lobe Sep INT/EXH Centerline 108.9/118.9 Duration 235.6/240.7 Lift .6207"/.61501" 2nd Bob motor build 2014: 548CI, 10.2 CR. AFR 335 full CNC heads, Edel. 454-R Dom intake, Accel 2100 CFM TB, Holley HP EFI, LS3 ignition, Same EMI Thunder long riser exhaust. Engine was a narrow peaky powerband but found the 6300 rpm peak finally with small prop. Boat ran 80 and climbing (never got peak setup/tune figured out) which requires ~700 HP with that hull, never dynoed. Promised 730-760 HP @6300 rpm. Engine had possible slight reversion. Never milked oil, but occasional steam from breathers. However, I did spec cam for full dry exhaust and was late in season when finished assy so never extended my tails through transom. Engine is on stand with probable spun rod bearing. Will be tearing apart to fix shortly and I am now interested to see what cam condition is. 8.1L firing swap core 8620 113.1 Lobe Sep INT/EXH Centerline 109.1/117.1 Duration 243.5/250.2 Lift .6804"/.66293" |
Bought a boat with the motor apart and had the cam spec'd out.
It is a crane with lift .631 duration 252 center line 113 These are the only numbers I got so I do not know if this is for both intake and exhaust. I am building a 548 BBC with 088 heads and 10:1 compression NA. This is for a 30ft advantage boat with a single 850 and Edelbrock Victor R manifold. Seems like a good place to start and the cam is still good. What do you think? I come from a drag racing background so I am trying to learn what works with boat motors as they are obviously a different animal. thanks |
My build is the second one listed. The boat runs very good and I have not had any issues other than some dialing in with timing and carbs. Picked up 6 plus mph with a cam change (Bob M cams) and clean up of the heads. I have put only 10 hours or so on it but so far so good.
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540ci
8.2cr 243/249 @.050 114 LSA .662/.647 Lift 8.1 L firing order Vortech Centrifugal Super charger AFR 325 CNC chambers At this point I am seriously considering not even taking a chance on this "Custom" Cam and going with something off the shelf. When this project started reliability was the Highest of priority with a stable long life valve-train and a target HP of 800HP was the Goal@6000rpm. I was willing to sacrifice max hp for reliability Motor is sitting in my shop with short block assembled, camshaft installed ready to bolt together. Unfortunately I have lost interest in the project. I let myself get led along by Bobs BS for over a year and finally had to distance myself from him. What I found interesting was how quick he was to point to others for his repeated failures to deliver as promised. I have since spoke with a couple of individuals Bob pointed to with fault and it turns out Bob is the one not them who didn't deliver. Not a Fan of MK done with this jerk off. |
Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 4488615)
540ci
8.2cr 243/249 @.050 114 LSA .662/.647 Lift 8.1 L firing order Vortech Centrifugal Super charger AFR 325 CNC chambers At this point I am seriously considering not even taking a chance on this "Custom" Cam and going with something off the shelf. When this project started reliability was the Highest of priority with a stable long life valve-train and a target HP of 800HP was the Goal@6000rpm. I was willing to sacrifice max hp for reliability Motor is sitting in my shop with short block assembled, camshaft installed ready to bolt together. Unfortunately I have lost interest in the project. I let myself get led along by Bobs BS for over a year and finally had to distance myself from him. What I found interesting was how quick he was to point to others for his repeated failures to deliver as promised. I have since spoke with a couple of individuals Bob pointed to with fault and it turns out Bob is the one not them who didn't deliver. Not a Fan of MK done with this jerk off. |
Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4488624)
Seriously. Wait til MT see's this. Cam specs sounds like most all others give or take. 800 hp NA? 13:1 comp..
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Originally Posted by tbanzer
(Post 4488630)
8.2 CR Supercharged
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4487963)
That`s a healthy cam with some lift , I like it . what do you run it up to? Ever dyno it? Whats it idle like?
Need more info :D 555ci JC Performance/Smith Power Brodix 2x heads Roots blown 6lbs boost 262/272 112 LSA 109 ICL 708/708 Crane solid roller cam, lobe designs from track roller profiles. Using same cam in a 573 now Tried Comp Cams same specs, made more boost but less power so numbers don't always tell the whole story. |
Originally Posted by SFOcean
(Post 4488787)
On the 555cid; ran at 5900rpm WOT. Made over 850 at 6300 on Brad's dyno. Have a short video of it idling but cannot post it, says it's too large; it idles at 1100rpm, 700rpm in gear with no surge. Doesn't matter which carbs either; same idle using three different sets (differing CFM), it's easy to tune. I should mention that the Comp Cams steel billet cam was ground on a 114 LSA. I think that's where the boost was gained and where the power was lost in this combination.
555ci JC Performance/Smith Power Brodix 2x heads Roots blown 6lbs boost 262/272 112 LSA 109 ICL 708/708 Crane solid roller cam, lobe designs from track roller profiles. Using same cam in a 573 now Tried Comp Cams same specs, made more boost but less power so numbers don't always tell the whole story. 262/274 , 113 LSA , .724/.725 lift , thats figuring .016 lash. Seems like whomever picked that cam, may have known a thing or two. Bet it made pretty good power too. I did use the BB2X flow data, with CNC ported chambers. Not sure if you have that, or any chamber work, either way, fun stuff. |
Would be interesting to see dyno numbers with those already listed, assuming they've been dyno'd
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First one was mine 630 hp and 638 tq in marine trim
Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4487404)
Here's some "custom" cams for oso members that have been specd for their combos.
540ci AFR 325 heads 9.6:1 1050 CFM carb Single Plane 241/246 duration 112 LSA 109 ICL 681/663 540ci GM Rectangle Iron heads 9:1 800 CFM carb Single plane 239/246 113 LSA 108 ICL 646/639 540ci AFR 325 heads 9.8:1 1000CFM carb single plane 242/247 112 LSA 108 ICL 664/656 |
Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4488882)
First one was mine 630 hp and 638 tq in marine trim
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yes sir. Junk
Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4488887)
Were those cams from MK?
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I have almost the same setup as you do. 540 -315 AFR heads. The cam is 246*-250* at .050 >663-.654 lift. 112 lc. Can you post what you replaced that MK cam with and what the result it made? I am going to rebuild and might make a change.
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You Dyno?
I will post results when all is done I am just now tearing into this and won't be done for a while
Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4488952)
I have almost the same setup as you do. 540 -315 AFR heads. The cam is 246*-250* at .050 >663-.654 lift. 112 lc. Can you post what you replaced that MK cam with and what the result it made? I am going to rebuild and might make a change.
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Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4488952)
I have almost the same setup as you do. 540 -315 AFR heads. The cam is 246*-250* at .050 >663-.654 lift. 112 lc. Can you post what you replaced that MK cam with and what the result it made? I am going to rebuild and might make a change.
On paper, it looks like a great combo. |
Originally Posted by SB
(Post 4488959)
You have around 300hrs on your set up don't you ?
On paper, it looks like a great combo. |
Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4488978)
Yes.It has. I have a bad habit of If someone is having a problem I think I will have it to. Its just me.
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Have to what?
Originally Posted by fbc25el
(Post 4488978)
Yes.It has. I have a bad habit of If someone is having a problem I think I will have it to. Its just me.
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Hello, I have a set of 540's, I'm getting ready to recam, they are close to your second combo, but with Edelbrock heads. Any dyno numbers on this combo?
Thanks Sir.. |
I should have clarified this thread. None of those camshafts, were picked by me. They were examples of what marine kinetics has specd for various builds, for comparative purposes.
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Here's my 468 recipe thanks to joe!
468 stock forged crank, forged rods 2399 Pistons 088 500hp heads Crane 134561 cam. Hyd flat cam @.050 236/246 .553/.571 lift 114 lobe sep 525sc blower and carb 5lbs of boost Made 572hp at 5600 I think it was 650 tq |
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