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#31
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651??? made by crane???
curious what are the numbers on this cam??
curious what are the numbers on this cam??
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Would the 651 cam have caused reversion with my wet exhaust ? Seems many who run it run dry exhaust .
As far as the IAT, it was close to 100° in the shop when we dynod and I was feeding the intercooler off the bypass port on the crossover , so the water was heated some by the block.. When it finally goes in the boat it'll likely have its own pickup...
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I chickened out due to my Eagle rotating assembly, AND due to the fact it was already well above my target hp anyways..
Sure doesn't sound like 1000+ hp at idle..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kprKxCUKvz4
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May have pulled even more with the SC we didn't try..
I chickened out due to my Eagle rotating assembly, AND due to the fact it was already well above my target hp anyways..
Sure doesn't sound like 1000+ hp at idle..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kprKxCUKvz4
I chickened out due to my Eagle rotating assembly, AND due to the fact it was already well above my target hp anyways..
Sure doesn't sound like 1000+ hp at idle..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kprKxCUKvz4
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From: yorkville,il
You won't get .018 above the deck under operating conditions. The piston grows when its hot.
With a .051 gasket, and even with the piston rock at max, you'd still have .033 of clearance. Once the piston grows, the rock will be less. If you were to average the measurement, say .018 above deck when rocked cold, and say, .012 below deck when rocked the other way, you can say, the piston is .004 above the deck, and use that for your measurment. Thats how I was taught to do it, using a deck bridge and a dial indicator. So far it seems to work.
With a .051 gasket, and even with the piston rock at max, you'd still have .033 of clearance. Once the piston grows, the rock will be less. If you were to average the measurement, say .018 above deck when rocked cold, and say, .012 below deck when rocked the other way, you can say, the piston is .004 above the deck, and use that for your measurment. Thats how I was taught to do it, using a deck bridge and a dial indicator. So far it seems to work.
#39
I noticed those IAT temperatures on your dyno sheet. Pretty cool info. I always thought the prochargers were soooooo much cooler running , and how you could run way more boost than a roots. Those IAT readings, are basically the same , if not a little hotter, than my 420 Mega Blower making 8lbs boost with a superchiller on the dyno. I love actual data, rather than "heresay" or someones "opinion'' based on sales and marketing claims.
You made that power with a 239/246 cam in full marine dress with EMI manifolds with an M4 and only 9 lbs boost, thats pretty good.. Maybe the 244/256 crane 651 would have been better. I don't know. You also dyno'ed that engine without the procharger as well didn't you?
You made that power with a 239/246 cam in full marine dress with EMI manifolds with an M4 and only 9 lbs boost, thats pretty good.. Maybe the 244/256 crane 651 would have been better. I don't know. You also dyno'ed that engine without the procharger as well didn't you?
One thing to look at is his IAT is without fuel so he don't show any cooling effect VS a roots supercharger with fuel.
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From: chicago
The Port EFI isn't getting the fuel cooling effect, but it should offer some help in the fuel distribution if its tuned right.


