500efi Saga Continues
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Hindsight should have just did them both but first motor is already back together as they were being done serially.
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I hope you didn't spend good money to make new parts , like old parts , for commonality ? Especially when your old parts , were going to
need to be new parts soon? I would never do that , to , or , for , a Customer , just not logical .
need to be new parts soon? I would never do that , to , or , for , a Customer , just not logical .
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Not sure why anyone these days, would want to fuk around rebuilding some old iron salt castings. Engine Quest makes a 502 Replacement head, that has 3/8' guides, the heat crossover port, etc. The head is designed to replace the GM/MERC iron head. You transfer over your valves and hardware. These castings are around 400 dollars each shipped to you.
Whats a machine shop charge to replace guides in a GM/MERC head? How about valve seats? Do they sonic check the head to find thin spots? Magnufluxing? Milling? By the time you get done with all that, you still have a 15,20,30 year old casting that cost you nearly the same money to simply just buy a new casting.
I really don't see a problem reusing old valves, as long as they check out, and there is enough margin left. If they are compromised, and new valves are needed, I would move right on to the engine quest 320 heads, that take a 11/32 valve, and is a much better performing head then the above. Or, a different performance aftermarket head if desired, dart, afr, brodix, whatever.
I've seen friends waste thousands of dollars rebuilding those old iron merc castings, dealing with rot, seat cracking, and all kinds of issues. They just aren't worth sinking money into, IMO. Now, if they are a clean freshwater set, and at rebuild time, just need a valve job, thats a different story.
Just my opinion on the topic.
Whats a machine shop charge to replace guides in a GM/MERC head? How about valve seats? Do they sonic check the head to find thin spots? Magnufluxing? Milling? By the time you get done with all that, you still have a 15,20,30 year old casting that cost you nearly the same money to simply just buy a new casting.
I really don't see a problem reusing old valves, as long as they check out, and there is enough margin left. If they are compromised, and new valves are needed, I would move right on to the engine quest 320 heads, that take a 11/32 valve, and is a much better performing head then the above. Or, a different performance aftermarket head if desired, dart, afr, brodix, whatever.
I've seen friends waste thousands of dollars rebuilding those old iron merc castings, dealing with rot, seat cracking, and all kinds of issues. They just aren't worth sinking money into, IMO. Now, if they are a clean freshwater set, and at rebuild time, just need a valve job, thats a different story.
Just my opinion on the topic.
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Trying to save myself from re-spending money on valve train components that are brand new.
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Not sure why anyone these days, would want to fuk around rebuilding some old iron salt castings. Engine Quest makes a 502 Replacement head, that has 3/8' guides, the heat crossover port, etc. The head is designed to replace the GM/MERC iron head. You transfer over your valves and hardware. These castings are around 400 dollars each shipped to you.
Whats a machine shop charge to replace guides in a GM/MERC head? How about valve seats? Do they sonic check the head to find thin spots? Magnufluxing? Milling? By the time you get done with all that, you still have a 15,20,30 year old casting that cost you nearly the same money to simply just buy a new casting.
I really don't see a problem reusing old valves, as long as they check out, and there is enough margin left. If they are compromised, and new valves are needed, I would move right on to the engine quest 320 heads, that take a 11/32 valve, and is a much better performing head then the above. Or, a different performance aftermarket head if desired, dart, afr, brodix, whatever.
I've seen friends waste thousands of dollars rebuilding those old iron merc castings, dealing with rot, seat cracking, and all kinds of issues. They just aren't worth sinking money into, IMO. Now, if they are a clean freshwater set, and at rebuild time, just need a valve job, thats a different story.
Just my opinion on the topic.
Whats a machine shop charge to replace guides in a GM/MERC head? How about valve seats? Do they sonic check the head to find thin spots? Magnufluxing? Milling? By the time you get done with all that, you still have a 15,20,30 year old casting that cost you nearly the same money to simply just buy a new casting.
I really don't see a problem reusing old valves, as long as they check out, and there is enough margin left. If they are compromised, and new valves are needed, I would move right on to the engine quest 320 heads, that take a 11/32 valve, and is a much better performing head then the above. Or, a different performance aftermarket head if desired, dart, afr, brodix, whatever.
I've seen friends waste thousands of dollars rebuilding those old iron merc castings, dealing with rot, seat cracking, and all kinds of issues. They just aren't worth sinking money into, IMO. Now, if they are a clean freshwater set, and at rebuild time, just need a valve job, thats a different story.
Just my opinion on the topic.
The fact that a mechine shop went thru these last year and didn't recommend changing them tells me they aren't bad and likely is a pre cautionary move this time around. Don't want to blow this stuff out of proportion. They aren't rotting off the motor.


