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Good oil thermostats??
What are guys running for oil stats? I had a hard time getting oil temps up last season, I am going to add stats, I was looking at these but want to make sure they flow ok,
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Tim I've searched before and never seen these but like them. Particular the port labeling. The merc ones I have are nice but bulkier and aren't labeled so if you have a little abc going on like myself it's easy to get mixed up especially if your not dealing with them daily. So ya if anyone have used these chime in. They look nice...
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Ps you'll prolly get temps up this year with that extra 500 plus rpm you'll be running. Without a doubt I truly believe stats are a must my last boat I couldn't build heat without coolers but they were stockers.
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I installed a "Mocal" thermostat last year. I think I paid just under a hundred bucks. I have no complaints with it even tho I only put 4-5 runs on it. My oil wouldn't get any warmer than 140 without it. I had "cheese" build up in my valve covers and up the dipstick tube. After install no more moisture build up. Still takes a while to warm up but it gets to about 170 ish while cruising and hits about 190 while running hard
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Thats the only thing about the basically automotive thermostats ....they usually open too soon and wont let the oil get to the 212* boil point of moisture ...I think the merc ones start to open @190 .... Earl @160 .....
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My oil rarely gets over 200 with the merc oil thermostats. I do not have water stats, and boat in cold lake michigan water. I do not get milk on my dipsticks or breathers. Oil does not need to hit 212 to rid moisture.
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
(Post 4528990)
My oil rarely gets over 200 with the merc oil thermostats. I do not have water stats, and boat in cold lake michigan water. I do not get milk on my dipsticks or breathers. Oil does not need to hit 212 to rid moisture.
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I put on a canton and worked like a charm...
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It has more to do with the air temp in the motor than the oil temp the same way a bathtub doesn't need to be boiling to create steam. The water has very little to do with the oil itself other than it occupies the same place, but the oil does need to not cool the air so much that it begins to absorb water.
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I really need oil temp. Gauges next. Does anyone have a better sender location than installing in the oil pan? Definitely not pulling engines just to install senders. Running 1996 454 MerCruisers.
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Many are in the filter head.
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Originally Posted by hotjava66
(Post 4529056)
Many are in the filter head.
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Haven't done it yet, but while I'm changing out everything, and looking at tapping a 1/8 NPT on the opposite side of where the line comes into the filter housing and before the cooler
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Im running Mercury, nice thing is, you dont need to figure out where or how to mount them
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Mine are at the filter head, measured after cooler, I am putting them in my pans also and going to have a switch to monitor both places..
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I put these on last year and they worked great.
http://www.improvedracing.com/oil-th...85f-p-212.html |
Something to consider is if they offer optional temperature replacement thermostats
The mercury racing I have only offer the 210 deg stat, it's sourced from a 90s M series BMW. The road racing crown has machined a solid billet replacement that keeps it open at all times, which does us no good. |
For what its worth I have been running the Perma-Cool oil thermostats with 3 1/2" x 24" oil coolers for 8+ years now. They have worked great and solved my oil condensation issues. I know they don't look very fancy but the thing I liked about them is that they use a standard car radiator thermostat "pellet" , so you can pick the temp you want them to open at anywhere from 140deg - 220+deg. Just buy the desired temp radiator thermostat and cut the pellet out of it, remove the snap ring on the perma cools and swap it out. Takes 5min... There are 2 in the swap shop right now (not mine) if you want to see want I am talking about. Also the ones that Full Force originally posted look like billet body versions of the same thing (they definitely plumb the same) so maybe you can do the same pellet swap with those. Anyway just trying to help, I know I don't post on here very much...
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Oh and I settled on 195 deg pellet, my oil temps warm up fast and then stay between 200-215 no matter how hard I run it or what the water temp is like. my sensor is at the input to the oil filter head (before the thermostat or oil cooler ).
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Originally Posted by whodathought38SS
(Post 4529277)
For what its worth I have been running the Perma-Cool oil thermostats with 3 1/2" x 24" oil coolers for 8+ years now. They have worked great and solved my oil condensation issues. I know they don't look very fancy but the thing I liked about them is that they use a standard car radiator thermostat "pellet" , so you can pick the temp you want them to open at anywhere from 140deg - 220+deg. Just buy the desired temp radiator thermostat and cut the pellet out of it, remove the snap ring on the perma cools and swap it out. Takes 5min... There are 2 in the swap shop right now (not mine) if you want to see want I am talking about. Also the ones that Full Force originally posted look like billet body versions of the same thing (they definitely plumb the same) so maybe you can do the same pellet swap with those. Anyway just trying to help, I know I don't post on here very much...
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4529071)
Im running Mercury, nice thing is, you dont need to figure out where or how to mount them
Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4529086)
Mine are at the filter head, measured after cooler, I am putting them in my pans also and going to have a switch to monitor both places..
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Many pans have 2 half inch drain plugs. You can utilize one of those ports which I've done otherwise you can drill and tap drain plug for sensor. You can get them all the way down to 1/8" pipe.
http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/p...kDkIww#reviews Here is another oil stat I never new of but honestly I think the perma cool ones have a better finish and a lot cheaper. Only advantage to these is their built with male AN so no need for adapters. I really like the earls that OP posted. Then again I just sold two perma cools for 55.00 shipped that work perfectly fine just don't have the bling. |
Originally Posted by Tractionless
(Post 4529367)
You're running Mercury oil temp gauges? I assume they make a kit that plugs and plays with the oil filter head? I haven't seen one.
Did you drill and tap like above (prefer not to) or find another means of mounting the sensor? Thanks |
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
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for -10 they would be.
Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4529452)
You think their 1/2" npt
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Are you referring to the -10 fittings ? no pipe thread on an O-ring seal
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they don't make them both ways?
Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4529455)
Are you referring to the -10 fittings ? no pipe thread on an O-ring seal
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Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy
(Post 4529455)
Are you referring to the -10 fittings ? no pipe thread on an O-ring seal
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Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4529465)
they don't make them both ways?
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Originally Posted by getrdunn
(Post 4529448)
I was looking at several different ones like those earlier. I think that is the ultimate especially if your starting fresh. With well laid out placement you could probably shorten up some oil hoses.
Originally Posted by picklenjim
(Post 4529441)
That's cool, and it has a port for a temp guage.
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I purchased 2 oil thermostats from Extreme Custom Marine. I delt with Paul a super nice guy and very knowledgeable he also sells them on eBay they are a take off of Mercs 1075 but at a fraction of the cost. These stats are super high quality and use -12 ORB lines.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230982514106...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
Originally Posted by Sonic Steve
(Post 4529522)
I purchased 2 oil thermostats from Extreme Custom Marine. I delt with Paul a super nice guy and very knowledgeable he also sells them on eBay they are a take off of Mercs 1075 but at a fraction of the cost. These stats are super high quality and use -12 ORB lines.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/230982514106...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT |
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Just removed the plug from on inlet side, installed temp sender (came with bushings) and then installed AN-10 fittings for the new hoses.
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Originally Posted by AllDodge
(Post 4530049)
Just removed the plug from on inlet side, installed temp sender (came with bushings) and then installed AN-10 fittings for the new hoses.
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Got my oil stats all done and plumbed in!
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Originally Posted by Full Force
(Post 4537245)
Got my oil stats all done and plumbed in!
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