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getrdunn 03-05-2017 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by blown (Post 4534803)
Havent been successful finding an option to dyno anywhere near the seller, but have spoken with the builder and may proceed without the dyno run. How do people on here generally conclude a sale like this? Simple contract for motors in as-is condition to be dropped off at agreed shipper with a couple of days or receiving a bank transfer? I was going to ask to do via paypal as they have buyers protection (Paypal can claw the funds back if what is delivered doesnt match what has been promised), but did a search and saw that many on OSO are dubious of paypal for scams. Just curious what is the normal method, thanks.

PayPal would be ok for deposit once price is settled and then you and seller agree on how balance is to be paid. He may not want PayPal even if you cover the fees. He's gotta be careful on his end also. Once you step into the performance world of engines warranty is limited if any. I think if you've talked to builder and seller you need to come to a conclusion and have trust. Also is it possible to get copy of receipts? If you feel right by it then move forward if not stop. Seller also sold a 10 meter correct? If it was sold to an OSO member find out who it was and maybe they saw the engines while there and if the boat was what he described it to be.

bck 03-05-2017 07:54 PM

How does this relate to the engines you're buying?
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...bad-motor.html

Unlimited jd 03-05-2017 08:13 PM

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/w...ml#post4455755
Hurt motor was an mpi

getrdunn 03-05-2017 09:29 PM

K hold up.

articfriends 03-05-2017 09:38 PM

So they were hurt at one point then put bsck together to sell? I dont trust ANYBODY when it comes to building motors but myself. Not mentioning any names but i was on a dyno at a shop and watched a fountain motor get yanked out that was hurt, pan pulled, parts changed while motor hung in air with pan off and slammed back together, the icing on the cake was the clear rtv that pan went back on with while oil dripped on ground!

getrdunn 03-05-2017 09:55 PM

PM sent to OP with message of interest.

blown 03-05-2017 09:56 PM

The "bad" motor Gene posted about was from an earlier set that were in his fountain. He then bought a set of 502's from another member who had them rebuilt by Thunderboat Bob, but sold off his boat before installing the motors which is why they are now available and apparently still sitting on pallets in his garage. I dont have any reason to distrust Gene and he seems like a decent guy, i just want to have as much security in the purchase as reasonably possible, cant afford to screw it up. Unfortunately haven't been able to find a dyno shop near him (i did find one they want "at least 1500" to dyno the pair but wont give me a set price, "it could be more" as they charge by the hour) so i haven't yet closed the deal with seller. Im going to do some more calling around tomorrow, and also check how far Gene is willing to drive to drop them off for dyno-ing. Thanks for the advice folks.

blown 03-05-2017 10:12 PM

Thanks for the PM

Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4534915)
PM sent to OP with message of interest.


BUP 03-05-2017 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by articfriends (Post 4534912)
So they were hurt at one point then put bsck together to sell? I dont trust ANYBODY when it comes to building motors but myself. Not mentioning any names but i was on a dyno at a shop and watched a fountain motor get yanked out that was hurt, pan pulled, parts changed while motor hung in air with pan off and slammed back together, the icing on the cake was the clear rtv that pan went back on with while oil dripped on ground!

I could only guess who that might have been - but really not a guess at all. I hear you on this loud and clear. It cracks me when boat owners advertise their motors were just rebuilt - that means nothing period as how were they rebuilt - who did the machine work and what detailed machine work was done - hell a guy with a honing stone on the end of a cordless hand drill still claims he can rebuild engines great . Also whom did the rebuilding.

I have seen many crappy rebuilt jobs for marine engines - poor machine work - old parts mix match with new parts -- used parts that should never been put back on the build - part installs that made no sense and very poor wiring a lot of the times. Poor fuel systems and used fuel system parts installed back on rebuilds, that one kills me.

mike tkach 03-05-2017 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4534925)
I could only guess who that might have been - but really not a guess at all. I hear you on this loud and clear. It cracks me when boat owners advertise their motors were just rebuilt - that means nothing period as how were they rebuilt - who did the machine work and what detailed machine work was done - hell a guy with a honing stone on the end of a cordless hand drill still claims he can rebuild engines great . Also whom did the rebuilding.

I have seen many crappy rebuilt jobs for marine engines - poor machine work - old parts mix match with new parts -- used parts that should never been put back on the build - part installs that made no sense and very poor wiring a lot of the times. Poor fuel systems and used fuel system parts installed back on rebuilds, that one kills me.

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