Ford Mercruiser
 

I am currently rebuilding an old boat...it has a 188 HP Mercruiser Ford engine. Is there anyone who really knows this type of engine...I've been told that Holman Moody in Charlotte, NC knows it...but it's a long way from me up in Canada.

i think it is a ford 302.someone here will have information on it.

it is an early 302. used to be common and easy to find. will still be some out there, and it is not an expensive engine. you could just about drop a 77 grenada engine in it as-is. I assume it is a non performance boat where every mph is not a big issue?

a friend had an 18 foot boat with one,it was a 1977,he sold it in 2007 and other than tune up parts it never needed anything.at 188 hp it did not make enough power to hurt itself.it was an omc with the old[stringer]drive.

Pcm ran those until the cows came home or about the mid to late 90's pretty much half ton pickup truck engines with non emissions camshafts and sometimes special sumps - oil pans the hopped up versions were usually found in the Crusaders and later ski boats matching 188 shouldn't be too hard

The 351 Windsor slightly larger than the 302 if you start to get those ideas

Don't know about a 188, do have info on the 888

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Yup, very basic.

Has a Holley 2bbl carb.....oh, the memories. My first carb rebuild, I think I was somewhere between 11 or 12 ? Definately not a teenager yet. I wanted to go waterskiing and boat ran like crap. My dad didn't know how to fix things, so he called marina and they said two weeks. I couldn't wait and dug right in. :)

Few years later, Boat sank...we got someone to come and get it back up. I ran boat a few week-ends that way until dawned on me to check the oil. OOOps...took care of that. Ran for many years after that.

Poor boat and motor...but it ran forever even with all that and more abuse.

The 888 was the Mercruiser outdrive, Outdrive had a 888 decal on top cap. The motor had 188 horsepower.

I have the 225 HP 4 barrel version in my 73 Penn Yan. You may want to change to double roller timing chain and gears. Stock cam gear is plastic coated and as the plastic wears the cam timing goes way retarded.

Had a pair of them in my old nova 250. not the most powerfull things, but they had 1300 hours on them and still ran like a top.

If your going thru them. a little bit of a cam and a intake and 4bbl carb would probably wake it up quite a bit (wake it up being a relative term)

I went through so many 302's in my Larson (baddest Pinto on the Bay) so many years ago I was going to put little pictures of motors with red lines going through it on the side of the boat like fighter pilots do on their planes for kills. You can spin a 5.0 up pretty good if you want.

i HAVE BUILT sbfS FOR SOME 45 YEARS for all sorts of venues just what are you interested in doing?

Have to agree the 188 is HP rating but the even the manual calls it a 888 or 225. The 898 is the GM

worked on them years ago, 188, std 302 2bbl holley, also had a 4bbl version, did several intake swaps back in the day on the 188's

Where do you live in Canada? I had a 1972 Glastron that had the 888 engine in it (188 HP). May know of some one that could help you out.

just put this in it, a guy on another site found two of these H&M 429

Unless you have a drunk Merc tech that don't know up from down when putting ID stickers on.
http://www.donzi.org/forum/attachmen...5&d=1486272474

Sort of a comparison of "Rip Van Winkle" to "Sleepy" (seven dwarfs)...:lolhit:

i sure would like a pair of those.

Have a friend who has a few of the "new" ford prostock hemi's if you are interested ???

Not a Ferd Guy .

But wasn't the thing to do to those 289-302s to make more power was to put some 351 heads on them.

Motor pic. I love this little boat. Straight inboard. 14" draft.

Unfortunately I'm a SBF guy lol. Years ago when there weren't many head choices guys used to use stock 351 Windsor heads. Today with the availability and price of aftermarket heads that practice isn't to common anymore.

I do have a rebuilt 351 c sitting here im tired of looking at .
On the right day , i would prob trade it for a case of beer

And what flavor would you like ?? Im in for two cases...:ernaehrung004: and my buddy will swing by to get it....:party-smiley-048:

Ahhh, yes, the PennYan Tunnel drives,....
Many thought they'd be the cat's azz up here on the St. Lawrence to avoid the rocks,....
Turns out, they're the most fuel Inefficient POS out there,....
They ride like crap, 'n ya can't keep fuel in the tank,...
I see 'em occasionally on craigslist for nearly nothin',...

Ayuh,... The Cleveland motors were never used in boats, only the Windsors,...

Must be talking about someone else's Penn Yan. Mine with the right acme prop, light on fuel and by myself will kiss 40 mph.
Won't go through water like my 43 does but the ride ain't that bad. Oh and doesn't burn as much gas either. :)

Closest thing i have found is a centurian wave . Have only ever seen one in person and 1 for sale.
16' front engine small block powered inboard. Turns on less than a dime and comes out of the hole like a supercharged jet skii. Would love to add one to my collection if anybody stumbles across one just sitting

If we can put a supercharged caddy motor in a outboard , im thinkin a canted valve small block can be somehow made to fit a vintage stern drive

Ayuh,.... Once ya come up with a flywheel cover, 'n exhaust manifolds, it oughta be a piece of cake,....

No one ever made marine exhaust for the 351 Cleveland ? What is different about the back of the block that a flywheel cover is needed .

Just asking because I am not a Ferd man. But I have a 1990 302 Bronco that I have owned for years that I need to do something with someday.

Dont let Dave find out about that... lol

Seen a few in boats though

Best thing these days is ported e7 heads best is GT40 heads ported wouldnt use P heads because of plug angle
Had a 302 in my Donzi.

Does it bug anyone else when someone starts an interesting post then never returns to it. No thank you, no gfy, nothing.

Padraig

Not really. Because I was reminded about Pen Yans and now I want one to use on the river!

Ayuh,.... I ain't a Ford guy either, but the Windsor motors are nothin' like the Cleveland motors, 'n don't interchange,....

Thats the beauty of it .
Source a 4sp toploader flywheel mod its flywheel cover if need be , seen plenty of peps fab adapter plates for the 460s , hell they prob make those in china now , now you have some real ohh-ahh appeal when you pop the hatch . But yea the 351 lightening pick up motor would be cool too. And would bolt right up