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Old 03-21-2017, 09:40 PM
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Gen 6. Hyd roller... I am understanding I cant run the stock lifters with .610 lift, what do I need???there are 50 million different hyd roller lifters and its all rather confusing....
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Anybody see anything that will work??

https://www.walmart.com/search/?query=rollerlifters
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What Gen block Phragle, and if a 6 like the cam, do you have the retainer/dogbones/ and spider ?
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Its a gen 6. I dont have the dogbones/spiders but I can get them ...
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I went with the johnsons. Some still use the morels. The cranes were also recommended by a very good builder. I'd say pick one of those 3. The morels used to be the best but there has been a lot of complaints about them lately. This ruined my brain trying to pick a set. The johnsons have a .700 wheel as do the cranes. Which will cost you roughly 1.5-2 on duration. The morels are a .750 wheel which is the wheel most cams are specd with.

I bought mine from eddie young. He did very well on the price. Good luck in your search.
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working on the same issue now as my sons boat has a failed what is supposed to be morels, johnsons are what I have heard the best thing about, they have a lube hole that oils the roller that most others don't but following this as well. I did run std GM setup with HP500 carb cam for years with no issues for what thats worth
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Originally Posted by ezstriper View Post
working on the same issue now as my sons boat has a failed what is supposed to be morels, johnsons are what I have heard the best thing about, they have a lube hole that oils the roller that most others don't but following this as well. I did run std GM setup with HP500 carb cam for years with no issues for what thats worth
There are 2 models of the johnsons one has the axle oiling one doesn't. 2116bbr is the model that I went with and was recommended by Eddie. It doesn't have it to my knowledge. Ron sporl also recommended the same part number.
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Originally Posted by I.C.U.Lookin View Post
There are 2 models of the johnsons one has the axle oiling one doesn't. 2116bbr is the model that I went with and was recommended by Eddie. It doesn't have it to my knowledge. Ron sporl also recommended the same part number.
Is that a stock height body, meaning no push rod length change

Edit: I just looked it up......+.300

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Yes +.300
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I have been running the stock gen 6 lifters on .625 lift for 4 years with no issues. 150# on the seat, a little over 400# open
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