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getrdunn 04-11-2017 06:54 PM

wtf.... lol

MILD THUNDER 04-11-2017 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by kvogt (Post 4545531)
From Flatlander racing, The piston rod diagram didn't paste over.

heres another article on this topic. That math is over my head to try and do comparions. Pipemax helps make it easier. It be cool to be able to simulate from graphs based on the math results

http://www.epi-eng.com/piston_engine...ion_basics.htm

MILD THUNDER 04-11-2017 07:04 PM

I think the reality of it, for us boaters, is pick a rod that fits in the box. We aren't building engines that are competing to the tenths. Heck, the majority of us here, are so undercammed and undervalved (except guys like 14apache lol), chasing rod length is over the top, from power production standpoint. I mean, guys are building 598ci NA engines, with .630 lift hydraulic cams, and 2.25 or 2.3 valves. So far from what the engine actually wants/needs from an airflow demand standpoint, a change in piston acceleration from rod length, is almost microscopic in the grand scheme of things. When you look at what the top engine guys are running for valve lift, and valve diameter, that are making big power on motor, its a world away from what most here are running. none the less, pretty interesting topic.

14 apache 04-11-2017 07:51 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4545538)
I think the reality of it, for us boaters, is pick a rod that fits in the box. We aren't building engines that are competing to the tenths. Heck, the majority of us here, are so undercammed and undervalved (except guys like 14apache lol), chasing rod length is over the top, from power production standpoint. I mean, guys are building 598ci NA engines, with .630 lift hydraulic cams, and 2.25 or 2.3 valves. So far from what the engine actually wants/needs from an airflow demand standpoint, a change in piston acceleration from rod length, is almost microscopic in the grand scheme of things. When you look at what the top engine guys are running for valve lift, and valve diameter, that are making big power on motor, its a world away from what most here are running. none the less, pretty interesting topic.

Ya and that's why my sh!t is in buckets.... LOL

MILD THUNDER 04-11-2017 07:54 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4545553)
Ya and that's why my sh!t is in buckets.... LOL

lol..but how fast do they push that 41 Apache to?

14 apache 04-11-2017 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4545555)
lol..but how fast do they push that 41 Apache to?

Pump gas engines without trying different props 110.7 Think it needed a little les pitch. It had a bunch of trim in it. Without a lot of trim good water 105.

Props 17x31 15*rake 5blade For got to say NA engines

MILD THUNDER 04-11-2017 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by 14 apache (Post 4545558)
Pump gas engines without trying different props 110.7 Think it needed a little les pitch. It had a bunch of trim in it. Without a lot of trim good water 105.

Props 17x31 15*rake 5blade For got to say NA engines

Thats humping. Prob wouldn't happen with some 310cc heads and 651 crane cams. :riding:

14 apache 04-11-2017 08:33 PM

Boat ran around 106 with 351 brodix ovals that head will haul the mail and still have bottom end. Head hunter 383mc hurts the bottom to plane off. But they run like a bear.

SB 04-11-2017 08:41 PM

I'd much rather have good head vs having a longer rod, :)

14 apache 04-11-2017 08:51 PM

A long rod you get more enjoyment from the small end to the big end. Lol


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