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thirdchildhood 08-30-2017 05:09 PM

Mercury Gear Lube Questions
 
What is the best Mercury brand gear oil now and who has the best price on 1 qt. containers? Thanks.

Keith Atlanta 08-30-2017 05:53 PM

The best Mercury Gear lube is actually Amsoil 110 or the 140

RaggedEdge 08-30-2017 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4579657)
The best Mercury Gear lube is actually Amsoil 110 or the 140

Amsoil is for sure some real good stuff, ran it for many years.

To answer the above question, Merc Racings best, and latest is the new Extreme Performance 85-90 Gear Lube. Per a Merc Racing bulletin it is the recommended lube for all perf drives from the Bravo XR to the M8. I bought it for my new drives, if for no other reason than to run what Merc calls for during the warranty period. If they take a dump it's going to be with their lube.

Keith Atlanta 08-30-2017 06:26 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 4579668)
Amsoil is for sure some real good stuff, ran it for many years.

It was mostly a joke. Depending on what you are looking for, I think the thicker stuff makes drives last longer. For some reason, I think the new Merc Racing oil isnt as good as the old performance blend.

RaggedEdge 08-30-2017 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4579671)
It was mostly a joke. Depending on what you are looking for, I think the thicker stuff makes drives last longer. For some reason, I think the new Merc Racing oil isnt as good as the old performance blend.

I ran the Amsoil and did have pretty good luck, I have no clue how good the newest Merc Racing lube is, but like I said if they take a dump it's not going to be a blame game. Had this lube conversation over the weekend with a Merc drive "Guy" and his comment was to change it often, never let it get old. Gear lube is the most batted around topic on this site, who the fock knows.

I would agree the thicker might be more protection,
but mine was just a tick faster with the lighter. :-)

Keith Atlanta 08-30-2017 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by RaggedEdge (Post 4579674)
but mine was just a tick faster with the lighter. :-)

No doubt, I actually started using the 140 believe it or not. Yes, it was 1 MPH slower but drive rebuild intervals got way shorter. There are some guys that race with 10-40 and pick up even more speed.... but we both know it just isnt worth it.

SB 08-30-2017 06:50 PM

Have not used it yet, I had large supply of the High Performance Merc stuff. Will need toreplace supply this sspring. So I'm listening if this new stuff is better or not.

Mercury Racing Gear Lube 85W-90 1-Quart #8M0078015
  • SAE 85W-90
  • For use in Mercury Racing gear cases
  • Do NOT mix with any other gear lubricants
  • For use with gear lube pump 802891K2
  • 32 fl oz plastic bottle
Mercury Racing Gear Lube was designed for outboard and sterndrive racing applications. This gear lube provides maximum protection against: • Water intrusion – advanced emulsifiers protect gears if water enters the gear housing • Wear – tackifiers and pressure additives improve oil film adhesion and protect against excessive wear • Horsepower loss - prevents horsepower loss and won’t break down when gears reach high temperatures

Recommended for use in Mercury Racing outboard gear cases including: Sport Master, Torque Master, Fleet Master, VI SSM and IV SSM and Mercury Racing sterndrive applications including Dry Sump Six,NXT6, SSM, NXT, Bravo XR, Bravo XR Sport Master drives and NXT transmission assemblies.

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/conte...earlube-hp.png

SB 08-30-2017 06:54 PM

Sorry, don't know what I did and there is no size options on the lettering to fix it.

class6 08-30-2017 07:05 PM

I didn't need my glasses to see it. That's what I use

minxguy 08-30-2017 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by Keith Atlanta (Post 4579675)
No doubt, I actually started using the 140 believe it or not. Yes, it was 1 MPH slower but drive rebuild intervals got way shorter. There are some guys that race with 10-40 and pick up even more speed.... but we both know it just isnt worth it.

A 90 wt gear oil will have the same viscosity characteristics as a 40 wt motor oil at 210 F. A 40 wt motor oil vs a 140 gear lube, the 40 wt will be thinner.


Just talking viscosity here, nothing else.

Ken

Mr Maine 08-30-2017 09:52 PM

Am i the the only one that runs the amsoil 75w-90 marine gear lube? Seems like everyone runs the amsoil anything but marine.

SB 08-30-2017 10:11 PM

Actually, I'd say 95%+ of those here that state they use Amsoil gear oil never state what the heck Amsoil they use. Once in a while someone will state they use Severe Gear, but of course don't state what weight. Same with Redline, they'll just state shock proof, but not which one
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Drive's me nutz. LOL.

Griff 08-31-2017 01:17 AM

The new Merc Racing lube is probably the best. No sure who has best price and I can't get it locally without a special order.

Cheapest Merc Hi Performance Gear Lube is the Quicksilver HP Gear Lube at Walmart for $10 a quart. It is EXACTLY the same as Mercruiser with a QS label.

BUP 08-31-2017 01:34 AM

Many are starting to use 75 / 80 w - 140 of different brands.
I like Driven oils

dcb 08-31-2017 06:13 AM


Originally Posted by Mr Maine (Post 4579726)
Am i the the only one that runs the amsoil 75w-90 marine gear lube? Seems like everyone runs the amsoil anything but marine.

Been using the Amsoil marine gear lube for years - it is more resistant to water than the severe gear. Doesnt gel up in the reservoir like the green stuff. I also read somewhere that the new formulation of severe gear was causing cone clutch problems.

VoodooRob 08-31-2017 06:20 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4579750)
The new Merc Racing lube is probably the best. No sure who has best price and I can't get it locally without a special order.

Cheapest Merc Hi Performance Gear Lube is the Quicksilver HP Gear Lube at Walmart for $10 a quart. It is EXACTLY the same as Mercruiser with a QS label.

Griff, High Performance has been the entry level ( standard bravo, etc) oil for a few years now. Extreme Performance is designed for Xr thru #8s. The new Extreme oil is brown versus old top of the line HP blue. The new High Performance oil is brown. Hope that makes sense. I have seen the High Performance at Wal Mart but not the Extreme Performance.
I called Merc last year to get the correct info for my XRs.

Tractionless 08-31-2017 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by dcb (Post 4579766)
Been using the Amsoil marine gear lube for years - it is more resistant to water than the severe gear. Doesnt gel up in the reservoir like the green stuff. I also read somewhere that the new formulation of severe gear was causing cone clutch problems.

Amsoil Marine Gear here as well. Severe gear didn't specify marine use so I dare not fill a submerged case with it.

Keith

ICDEDPPL 08-31-2017 08:48 AM

I`m running this purely because it`s synthetic and found at O'reilly


https://lucasoil.com/products/marine...arine-gear-oil

thirdchildhood 08-31-2017 10:26 AM

I appreciate all the replies. I didn't intend to start another debate on gear oils! I'm going to stick with Mercury but last time I bought the green "high performance" oil and not the latest and greatest which I guess is the Mercury Racing 85w90. Gotta get some ordered soon as winterization is coming up. :(

Griff 08-31-2017 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by VoodooRob (Post 4579768)
Griff, High Performance has been the entry level ( standard bravo, etc) oil for a few years now. Extreme Performance is designed for Xr thru #8s. The new Extreme oil is brown versus old top of the line HP blue. The new High Performance oil is brown. Hope that makes sense. I have seen the High Performance at Wal Mart but not the Extreme Performance.
I called Merc last year to get the correct info for my XRs.

Yep, I aware of that.
I was trying to say the Merc HP gear lube(green) was exactly the same as Quicksilver HP Lube except for the label and is only $10/qt at Walmart compared to $17/qt at a Merc dealer.

Knot 4 Me 08-31-2017 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by Mr Maine (Post 4579726)
Am i the the only one that runs the amsoil 75w-90 marine gear lube? Seems like everyone runs the amsoil anything but marine.

I run the marine and always have. When George at AADS was rebuilding my drive this summer, he asked which Amsoil I used. He said he used to run the Severe Gear but started losing cone clutches after what he believed to be an additive or formulation change by Amsoil.

thirdchildhood 08-31-2017 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4579678)
Have not used it yet, I had large supply of the High Performance Merc stuff. Will need toreplace supply this sspring. So I'm listening if this new stuff is better or not.

Mercury Racing Gear Lube 85W-90 1-Quart #8M0078015
  • SAE 85W-90
  • For use in Mercury Racing gear cases
  • Do NOT mix with any other gear lubricants
  • For use with gear lube pump 802891K2
  • 32 fl oz plastic bottle
Mercury Racing Gear Lube was designed for outboard and sterndrive racing applications. This gear lube provides maximum protection against: • Water intrusion – advanced emulsifiers protect gears if water enters the gear housing • Wear – tackifiers and pressure additives improve oil film adhesion and protect against excessive wear • Horsepower loss - prevents horsepower loss and won’t break down when gears reach high temperatures

Recommended for use in Mercury Racing outboard gear cases including: Sport Master, Torque Master, Fleet Master, VI SSM and IV SSM and Mercury Racing sterndrive applications including Dry Sump Six,NXT6, SSM, NXT, Bravo XR, Bravo XR Sport Master drives and NXT transmission assemblies.

http://www.mercruiserparts.com/conte...earlube-hp.png

This is what I want. Amazon doesn't have it and a google shopping search came up blank! If no one knows where to order it I guess I will call around.

ALL_IN! 08-31-2017 04:29 PM

If the newest and best is "Extreme Gear Lube" - why doesn't it say it on the bottle?? From a marketing perspective, wouldn't it sell better?? (whether you needed 'Extreme' or not, it's got to be better and 'faster', right?? LOL)

thirdchildhood 08-31-2017 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by ALL_IN! (Post 4579923)
If the newest and best is "Extreme Gear Lube" - why doesn't it say it on the bottle?? From a marketing perspective, wouldn't it sell better?? (whether you needed 'Extreme' or not, it's got to be better and 'faster', right?? LOL)

That's what threw me off on my last oil change. I bought the old green hi-per oil and then found out that there is a better lube out now. So the old "latest and greatest" says High Performance and this one says Mercury Racing. 🙄

VoodooRob 08-31-2017 08:24 PM

The Merc Racing you are looking for is no longer made. That bottle with the blue oil and the brown label has been replaced. Quicksilver Extreme is the new stuff, brown oil now. The new Quicksilver Hi Performance is the standard everyday gear oil, not what you want for your set-up Thirdchildhood.

VoodooRob 08-31-2017 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by ALL_IN! (Post 4579923)
If the newest and best is "Extreme Gear Lube" - why doesn't it say it on the bottle?? From a marketing perspective, wouldn't it sell better?? (whether you needed 'Extreme' or not, it's got to be better and 'faster', right?? LOL)

100% agree, the marketing is screwed up and the names are confusing. Should have wiped the slate clean and used new branding. Merc missed the mark on this one creating a bunch of confusion.

BUP 08-31-2017 11:02 PM

I am a bit lost here why amazon and google and all this typing time to figure out products and part numbers ?--- ones local dealer can due this in one minute plus why not support your local dealer with buying marine stuff. I am not saying to spend thousands but your local marine dealer pays taxes, employees people in the area, puts on boating events - supports local lakes, Also some even offer free classes on maintenance and how to tech women to drive boats.

Also some dealers and or their employees might be up here offering free help that they were trained on for years but their training was not free at all. Amazon and ebay and google are well off but some businesses in the marine industry can be struggling.

Not a negative post on my part just IMO for the marine industry it would nt hurt do a bit more in parts buying to help out the small guy in their local community on the OEM marine end.

ALL_IN! 09-01-2017 07:40 AM

For reference, I bought a few bottles of Mercury Quickleen from my local Merc dealer - was a few cents cheaper than lowest I found online, and I picked it up same day.


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4579987)
I am a bit lost here why amazon and google and all this typing time to figure out products and part numbers ?--- ones local dealer can due this in one minute plus why not support your local dealer with buying marine stuff. I am not saying to spend thousands but your local marine dealer pays taxes, employees people in the area, puts on boating events - supports local lakes, Also some even offer free classes on maintenance and how to tech women to drive boats.

Also some dealers and or their employees might be up here offering free help that they were trained on for years but their training was not free at all. Amazon and ebay and google are well off but some businesses in the marine industry can be struggling.

Not a negative post on my part just IMO for the marine industry it would nt hurt do a bit more in parts buying to help out the small guy in their local community on the OEM marine end.


thirdchildhood 09-01-2017 09:04 AM


Originally Posted by VoodooRob (Post 4579967)
The Merc Racing you are looking for is no longer made. That bottle with the blue oil and the brown label has been replaced. Quicksilver Extreme is the new stuff, brown oil now. The new Quicksilver Hi Performance is the standard everyday gear oil, not what you want for your set-up Thirdchildhood.

Wow. This is getting crazy. OK, I will look for Quicksilver Extreme!


Originally Posted by BUP (Post 4579987)
I am a bit lost here why amazon and google and all this typing time to figure out products and part numbers ?--- ones local dealer can due this in one minute plus why not support your local dealer with buying marine stuff. I am not saying to spend thousands but your local marine dealer pays taxes, employees people in the area, puts on boating events - supports local lakes, Also some even offer free classes on maintenance and how to tech women to drive boats.
Also some dealers and or their employees might be up here offering free help that they were trained on for years but their training was not free at all. Amazon and ebay and google are well off but some businesses in the marine industry can be struggling.
Not a negative post on my part just IMO for the marine industry it would nt hurt do a bit more in parts buying to help out the small guy in their local community on the OEM marine end.

My local dealers north of Detroit do not even stock the old High Performance gear oil. I found a hardware store in northern Michigan that does and I've been getting it there. Now I'm off to search for the new stuff. I would gladly support local business if they stocked what I need. I get my engine oil and filters at the local NAPA store.

thirdchildhood 09-05-2017 10:46 AM

Well I got the holiday behind me and looked into this. The "Extreme Performance 85w90" was not easy to find but Teague has it at $16.95/Qt. and I ordered some. They confirmed that it is the best gear lube offered by Mercury.

class6 09-06-2017 12:00 PM

Buy Local and Support My local Dealer that owns 5 fast boats a crap load of cars and drives a Lambo to work.

BUP 09-06-2017 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by class6 (Post 4580865)
Buy Local and Support My local Dealer that owns 5 fast boats a crap load of cars and drives a Lambo to work.

That's one hell of mark up he made on selling 3 qts of gear oil LMFAO

JeBlanken 04-05-2018 03:14 PM

EBay Motors has the Mercruiser Extreme Performance 85w90 gearlube

thirdchildhood 04-06-2018 07:32 AM


Originally Posted by JeBlanken (Post 4619987)
EBay Motors has the Mercruiser Extreme Performance 85w90 gearlube

For how much? Was $17/qt. at Teague.

neva satisfied 04-06-2018 02:02 PM


Originally Posted by thirdchildhood (Post 4620127)
For how much? Was $17/qt. at Teague.


Ebay is $17/qt also but also $9/qt for shipping!!

thirdchildhood 04-06-2018 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by neva satisfied (Post 4620231)
Ebay is $17/qt also but also $9/qt for shipping!!

Eeek. Liquid gold.

Zach F100 04-08-2018 03:54 PM

Mr. Gadgets recommended I use royal purple 75w-90 with 6oz Prolong Engine Treatment.

F-2 Speedy 04-08-2018 04:22 PM

Im runnin Slick 50 full synthetic..........:D

BUP 04-08-2018 09:05 PM

Super Tech 90 w with 8 oz of sea foam mixed in.

neva satisfied 04-09-2018 06:02 AM

This might be a stupid question but what might be a good substitute for the Mercury Extreme gear lube?


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