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MadMat 11-13-2017 03:05 PM

Silencing Options
 
I'm running dry pipes, and need to stay dry to handle to handle the cam. I've got GGB slip in competition mufflers on order - has anyone tried an exhaust crossover upstream of the GGB's to smooth out the flow and soften the bark a little?

575cat 11-13-2017 03:22 PM

GGB,s need water to work right .

MadMat 11-13-2017 03:24 PM

I hear you - but I unfortunately won't be able to run any through them! The cam won't support it - so I'm open to any/all other options....

MILD THUNDER 11-13-2017 05:45 PM

I have these. They work well at reducing the noise when closed.

1212 GAFFRIG SUPERFLO SERIES MUFFLER 4I.D. TAIL PIPE (1-PAIR) INCLUDES PUMP KIT

corey331 11-14-2017 05:38 AM

I was having the same issue as you were with having to run dry pipes. The only thing I have found that will work is exactly what you ordered. They do a good job of taking the "bark" or "crackle" out of the dry exhaust.

getrdunn 11-14-2017 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4593512)
I have these. They work well at reducing the noise when closed.

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i had two nice sets of those I regret selling. They were like new condition. In regards to OT what about gatlins. Endeavour32 ordered a couple sets for his SC engines. Some say their really quite and some say they still have a nice rumble but take the (annoying bark) out the bite. You could run you water dumps over the top of to help cool. NO hp loss.

endeavour32 11-14-2017 09:34 PM

The mufflers I have, that Getrdunn is referring too, are the Imco Gatlins. What size cam are you running? My engines have some pretty big cams, and the original owner was running the engines dry to tip with CMI sound advantage mufflers. I'm not a big fan of the sound advantage system on an engine with a large cam. I can see signs of slight reversion on the exhaust ports. I don't think it was bad, as the O2 sensor still function. Either way, I'm not running them (sound advantage), I want something that doesn't restrict the flow of water out the exhaust at idle.

corey331 11-15-2017 01:16 PM

I had a long conversation with Bob Teague about the muffler options for dry exhaust. The IMCO's, Gibson's and CMI's are all out. They all have internal parts that will burn up without water to cool them. Aquapower said theirs might work, but will most likely change color in a very short time. GBB were the only ones that were rated for dry, so I built my own slip-ons. They do work, but with dry exhaust, you will always be loud.

getrdunn 11-15-2017 01:58 PM

Loud is good... I'm really surprised those gatlins would burn out without water. I thought about designing and building some similar to the gatlins over the winter but will more than likely just get dirty looks from some and just smile. I'm not as much as a port hopper anymore and on lake mi within minutes so I'm not to concerned.

On the the flip side it's the coming in hot into home port after dark and a few beverages that bothers me. With that said what are you building? I did a bunch of experimenting years ago with a guy who use to build custom SS pipes, exh, and mufflers and at that time there wasn't but maybe one design that didn't scrape off top end rpm. At the time only running in the mid 70's it meant a lot.

getrdunn 11-15-2017 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by MadMat (Post 4593479)
I hear you - but I unfortunately won't be able to run any through them! The cam won't support it - so I'm open to any/all other options....

What cam you running? Is it a combination of overlap and Lsa. Post a video of that bad boy idling. Might just give me that extra boost to get up in the shop rather than out here in this awful weather deer hunting.

endeavour32 11-15-2017 04:56 PM

I called Imco today to confirm that Gatlins cannot by run dry. Which they confirmed, they cannot! What will happen is the stainless packing inside will burn out. You can have overboard dumps so most of the water goes out through a water dump, but some must go through the exhaust to keep it cool. As far as dB decrease, on average it is a 10 dB decrease.

Either way for me, not a big deal. I don't plan on running dry for the simple reason, I like to talk in my boat.

SB 11-15-2017 05:46 PM

Anybody try using the long GGB;s and have the water enter say half way down from where they start ?
GGB makes some real long inserts

http://thumbs.ebaystatic.com/d/l600/...72570857_1.jpg

endeavour32 11-15-2017 06:21 PM

The nice thing with the GBBs is that you can cut the rings off until you get the sound you like. The next best thing is, they are dirt cheap!

endeavour32 11-15-2017 06:22 PM

The nice thing with the GGBs is that you can cut the rings off until you get the sound you like. The next best thing is, they are dirt cheap!

SB 11-15-2017 06:24 PM

X 2 ! :)

SB 11-15-2017 07:37 PM

By the way,have you looked into these Gatling gun exhaust tips: :lolhit:


indysupra 11-15-2017 07:45 PM

Throw her in the cuddy and shut the door? That seems to work for me!!

endeavour32 11-15-2017 08:08 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4593963)
By the way,have you looked into these Gatling gun exhaust tips: :lolhit:

Ha- now that's a new twist!


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