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warlocky 07-23-2018 09:16 AM

Water dumps
 
I have a warlock 25 sxt with a carb 502.i have to much water presure.I put 2 dumps off the rear of the intake with values to controll the flow but the motor dosnt get enough water to the thermostate.where is the best place to put my dumps.Thanks.

Griff 07-23-2018 02:43 PM

Put an adjustable pressure relief valve in the main water supply hose.

payuppsucker 07-23-2018 03:36 PM


warlocky 07-23-2018 04:01 PM

Wher did you get them and where do you install them at.

payuppsucker 07-23-2018 04:07 PM

Hardin Marine or CP Performance. I prefer to put them in the hose that goes from the oil cooler to the motor so you get full flow through the oil cooler.

SB 07-23-2018 04:24 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4639543)
Hardin Marine or CP Performance. I prefer to put them in the hose that goes from the oil cooler to the motor so you get full flow through the oil cooler.

Smart.
Merc racing suggests to put there's and all water psi regulators after the oil cooler but before the block..

vintage chromoly 07-23-2018 04:48 PM

I put mine before the oil cooler, but I’ve never dumped any water. Mine runs at around 12PSI

GPM 07-23-2018 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by warlocky (Post 4639431)
I have a warlock 25 sxt with a carb 502.i have to much water presure.I put 2 dumps off the rear of the intake with values to controll the flow but the motor dosnt get enough water to the thermostate.where is the best place to put my dumps.Thanks.

Did you always have to much pressure or is something restricting the exit path of the water, block or exhaust manifolds full of rust or dirt.

payuppsucker 07-23-2018 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4639554)
I put mine before the oil cooler, but I’ve never dumped any water. Mine runs at around 12PSI

You are obviously not running a thermostat.....correct?

vintage chromoly 07-23-2018 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4639564)

You are obviously not running a thermostat.....correct?

I run a thermostat.

payuppsucker 07-23-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by vintage chromoly (Post 4639567)

I run a thermostat.

Hmmmm, with a stat and dry pipes I was at 55 PSI without a relief valse.
3/4 inch NPT dump in each tail pipe.
If I remember correctly you also run dry pipes....

vintage chromoly 07-23-2018 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by payuppsucker (Post 4639570)

Hmmmm, with a stat and dry pipes I was at 55 PSI without a relief valse.
3/4 inch NPT dump in each tail pipe.
If I remember correctly you also run dry pipes....

yes, dry pipes with 3/4” NPT dumps.

vintage chromoly 07-23-2018 05:50 PM

My water pickup is on the bottom of the boat. Flush with the bottom.

BenPerfected 07-23-2018 06:15 PM

We manage water pressure by bleeding off water from the front of intake manifold and dumping it thru the transom. With a restrictor in the water dump hose fitting, the water pressure stays at a constant 10-15 lbs.

payuppsucker 07-24-2018 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by BenPerfected (Post 4639576)
We manage water pressure by bleeding off water from the front of intake manifold and dumping it thru the transom. With a restrictor in the water dump hose fitting, the water pressure stays at a constant 10-15 lbs.

Why not bleed it off the rear of the intake and eliminate to possibility of steam pockets?

warlocky 07-24-2018 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by GPM (Post 4639562)
Did you always have to much pressure or is something restricting the exit path of the water, block or exhaust manifolds full of rust or dirt.

Its allways had high presure.WOT is 30 plus.i may have some restrictions.not sure.Just been building the boat the last 2 years.the 2 dumps i added to the rear of the intake worked but i dont get enough water to the front of the motor.

warlocky 07-24-2018 08:59 AM

Thats what i did.I dont get enough water to the thermostat to build any heat and it will run hot.my temp guage wont move even though its hot.no water to front of intake.

payuppsucker 07-24-2018 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by warlocky (Post 4639667)
Its allways had high presure.WOT is 30 plus.i may have some restrictions.not sure.Just been building the boat the last 2 years.the 2 dumps i added to the rear of the intake worked but i dont get enough water to the front of the motor.

I'd keep the bleeds on the rear of the intake but restrict them to the very minimum. This will eliminate the possibility of steam pockets which the engine will be more prone to develop when you install the water pressure relief valves due to lower pressure.

payuppsucker 07-24-2018 09:10 AM

Could you post some pics of your plumbing?

warlocky 07-24-2018 02:08 PM

I need to check this out.

MILD THUNDER 07-24-2018 05:27 PM

couple things can cause high water psi. Depth of the water pickup on the hull, restrictions on water exiting the engine. Such as, thermostat, too small lines to exhaust, etc. Personally, before bleeding water off, i try to make sure there is no exit restriction. if there isnt, than I'd take a good look at the pickups, If they are thru hull, and mounted excessively deep, raise them/trim them. Having them deeper than they need to be, only to blow the water off the side of the boat , is a waste, and on some boats, can scrub a bunch of speed. The pickups on my fountain are almost even with the bottom like Vintage's .

warlocky 07-24-2018 07:08 PM

My pick up is on the drive.dravo 1 standard unit

MILD THUNDER 07-24-2018 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by warlocky (Post 4639784)
My pick up is on the drive.dravo 1 standard unit

are you running the stock circulating pump or a crossover? If a crossover, what size is the bypass and lines going to exhaust?

warlocky 07-25-2018 09:11 AM

all stock stuff.side mounted water pump,running stock circulating pump.going to check my exhoust.pull the risers and see if there are stoped up.i have my water presure line in the block wher the side drain is.will that make a difference how the presure reads.

adk61 07-25-2018 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by warlocky (Post 4639431)
I have a warlock 25 sxt with a carb 502.i have to much water presure.I put 2 dumps off the rear of the intake with values to controll the flow but the motor dosnt get enough water to the thermostate.where is the best place to put my dumps.Thanks.

keep bleeders at rear of intake, the ones you're currently using are likely too big and are bypassing too much water, -4 hoses will flow enough water out and away from rear cylinders. (typically the problematic area of BBC) and rid potential steam pocketing of rear cylinders, what is your water pressure at speed?

Griff 07-26-2018 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by warlocky (Post 4639916)
all stock stuff.side mounted water pump,running stock circulating pump.going to check my exhoust.pull the risers and see if there are stoped up.i have my water presure line in the block wher the side drain is.will that make a difference how the presure reads.

That location works fine, but the hose may clog easily.. Thats where it was on my Pantera and clogged all the time. The ones on my AT are in the intake manifold and never clog.

warlocky 08-28-2018 10:43 AM

I added a presure value to the intale line after my cooler.the hose was allready cut there.......got it set to the lowest possible rate.check all lines,exhoust risers are clean.move my presure line to the intake.i still peg the gauge.if my s pipes are to close to the exhoust will this raise water presure.i might cut the y pipes off to get them away from the riser pipe......can i get block off plates for a bravo 1 that draws water at the sides.

payuppsucker 08-28-2018 11:04 AM

Post a pic of your setup.............

warlocky 08-28-2018 11:51 AM

It wont let me post photos.

warlocky 08-28-2018 11:57 AM

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payuppsucker 08-28-2018 12:12 PM

You said you have the regulator set to the lowest rate...........meaning you have it screwed all the out.....counter clockwise?

warlocky 08-28-2018 12:28 PM

yes.thats where i get the most water

payuppsucker 08-28-2018 12:32 PM

The most water coming out of the dump or relief port?

warlocky 08-28-2018 12:43 PM

only exit i have are the exhaust and one dump with the relief value

payuppsucker 08-28-2018 12:49 PM

You said gauge is pegged.........what's the range of the gauge? 0-15, 0-30, 0-50?

warlocky 08-28-2018 12:55 PM

0 to 35

payuppsucker 08-28-2018 01:00 PM

There has to be a blockage somewhere. You still have the dumps off the rear of the intake?

warlocky 08-28-2018 03:17 PM

no.The only restriction i can think of is the s pipe is to close to the end of the riser causeing a back up kinda.everything is clear.i think i saw some deals you block off some of the holes on a bravo to decrease the water intake to help this sence my lower unit is so deep in the water

payuppsucker 08-28-2018 03:32 PM

You shouldn't need to do that with the relief valve. At what speeds/RPMs are you seeing the excessive pressure?

warlocky 08-28-2018 04:10 PM

mid to wot


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