thinking about LS swap from twin 454???
10-28-2018 | 05:50 PM
#22
Registered
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,023
Likes: 1,522
From: Grand Rapids, MI
Can't honestly answer that haven't dyno'd the latest combination, but I believe so. Dyno sheet says 559@5250 and 477@6500 on old setup. I'm propped to 5400 currently on my latest setup. I went from best speeds; 79-80 to 82 from the different setups.
10-28-2018 | 05:52 PM
#23
Registered
Joined: Jun 2018
Posts: 420
Likes: 35
From: Michigan
10-28-2018 | 07:21 PM
#25
Registered
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 14,152
Likes: 3,712
From: On A Dirt Floor
10-28-2018 | 07:36 PM
#26
Registered
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,023
Likes: 1,522
From: Grand Rapids, MI
10-28-2018 | 07:39 PM
#27
Registered
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,601
Likes: 1,169
From: taxachusetts
10-28-2018 | 09:55 PM
#28
Registered
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 4,189
Likes: 55
From: Cape coral, FL
im curious if the dyno numbers were done in full marine trim with the SM exhaust or done in dyno trim with dyno headers. I’d guess it was at least dyno headers and I think therein lies the problem. The SM exhaust will not act the same as a long tube dyno header causing the power to fall off quickly and dramatically. Whereas the second combo requires a lot less from the exhaust hence you get more usable power from it.
10-29-2018 | 06:53 AM
#29
Registered
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 437
Likes: 53
From: Stoney Creek, MD
ExtremeCFM, with your 5 posts here its sounds like your engine(power) knowledgeable. While there may be an example or 2 of making the kind of power you want with 454's its not common and again maybe there is an odd ball out there, but in general that amount of power from a NA454 will not be user friendly. Also what outdrives are you putting with these motors? Even if you can reliably make that power...say goodbye to your bravos or TRSs.
In short, I say build the 454's to 550hp and let them eat.
My personnel experience, I had a pair of 509ci 650hp(in dyno trim) engines in a 32 Sunsation. They were built right, ran awesome and lasted over 10 years, but. Honestly, yeah it was fun to blast up to 90 or so with the bigger power but, it was a pain in the ass other wise. Had to run high test, 900cfm holleys drank fuel, was a pain to dock because of idle characteristics(possible reversion) etc...etc. The boat had 496 ho's from the factory and was perfect.
In short, I say build the 454's to 550hp and let them eat.
My personnel experience, I had a pair of 509ci 650hp(in dyno trim) engines in a 32 Sunsation. They were built right, ran awesome and lasted over 10 years, but. Honestly, yeah it was fun to blast up to 90 or so with the bigger power but, it was a pain in the ass other wise. Had to run high test, 900cfm holleys drank fuel, was a pain to dock because of idle characteristics(possible reversion) etc...etc. The boat had 496 ho's from the factory and was perfect.
10-29-2018 | 06:59 AM
#30
Registered
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 11,332
Likes: 73
From: chicago
ExtremeCFM, with your 5 posts here its sounds like your engine(power) knowledgeable. While there may be an example or 2 of making the kind of power you want with 454's its not common and again maybe there is an odd ball out there, but in general that amount of power from a NA454 will not be user friendly. Also what outdrives are you putting with these motors? Even if you can reliably make that power...say goodbye to your bravos or TRSs.
In short, I say build the 454's to 550hp and let them eat.
My personnel experience, I had a pair of 509ci 650hp(in dyno trim) engines in a 32 Sunsation. They were built right, ran awesome and lasted over 10 years, but. Honestly, yeah it was fun to blast up to 90 or so with the bigger power but, it was a pain in the ass other wise. Had to run high test, 900cfm holleys drank fuel, was a pain to dock because of idle characteristics(possible reversion) etc...etc. The boat had 496 ho's from the factory and was perfect.
In short, I say build the 454's to 550hp and let them eat.
My personnel experience, I had a pair of 509ci 650hp(in dyno trim) engines in a 32 Sunsation. They were built right, ran awesome and lasted over 10 years, but. Honestly, yeah it was fun to blast up to 90 or so with the bigger power but, it was a pain in the ass other wise. Had to run high test, 900cfm holleys drank fuel, was a pain to dock because of idle characteristics(possible reversion) etc...etc. The boat had 496 ho's from the factory and was perfect.
