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plavutka 05-04-2019 01:24 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4685283)
Sea pump? I have no data on this, but I think out of all the accessories, (steering, alternator, circulating pump), the sea pump robs the most power. I thought I remember reading here something like 15-20hp just to turn the sea pump, idk .

Hard to belive. Perhaps 2 hp or less.
P = Q x H x g x 0,4 (Kw)


p.s
Under name Volvo Penta it is a lot of LS3 marine engines. Not wery sttrong, but @ 430 hp made more prop torque like BBC HO.

mggdoors 05-04-2019 02:35 AM


Originally Posted by Crude Intentions (Post 4685291)


sorry for the delay. Offshore internet is being extra ****ty. These are stock GM 502s. They have cams and box stock EQ iron heads. 8.7:1 compression which also contributes to the bsfcs being higher than normal. The plan is for blowers but still scared to pop the bravos. That dyno number is with wet exhaust and not even a set of long tubes like the 525. These cams desperately want longer runners. I’m too poor for that. Lol

for the record I’m a fan of the LS platform and think you made great power for what an LS is. I only take issue with the claim it would make a 525 look like a fool through the whole powerband and I don’t see where you beat the 525 at all. You make peak power a little higher but a fraction of the torque. This is no ball busting on the LS or what power it made just against the claims made.

You also mention there aren’t many LS powered stern drive boats yet claim they’re cheaper and better. If that were the case don’t you think there would be more than 20 of them?

Probably going to get **** for this but I can say from personal experience that the bravo will be fine. I ran bravo on both the sunny and currently on the daytona (same drives even) behind blower motors. Take off nice and dont murder the throttle below 3k. If you think your coming out of the water then get out of the gas. Ive had better luck with bravos then xr any day. And if you do have an issue much cheaper and easier to find parts for. Keep the oil changed( I do it every 10 hours with the engine oil). Might sound excessive but oil is cheaper than mechanical. Last but not least drive shower, preferably wag engineering billet cap. If it breaks it will most likeley be the floor. Easy fix. I have two spare bravos sitting still waiting for failure. Keep in mind mine are behind a cat with 5 blades. Very hard on drives but still ticking. Btw my drives on my daytona are 1994.
Are you running the eq 320? Thats what I ran on the blower motors. Good heads but heaaaavvvvyyy

mggdoors 05-04-2019 02:37 AM


Originally Posted by plavutka (Post 4685293)
Hard to belive. Perhaps 2 hp or less.
P = Q x H x g x 0,4 (Kw)


p.s
Under name Volvo Penta it is a lot of LS3 marine engines. Not wery sttrong, but @ 430 hp made more prop torque like BBC HO.

I havent found but a 4 hp variable on any run. Some of it has to be the pump but not every run is identical either

SB 05-04-2019 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4685271)
I dont think anyones against him. But if we're talkin shop, lets talk shop. He's made about two dozen claims in this thread, that are simply untrue. Things like his engines are going to run circles around a 525 merc, use way less fuel, his single pattern cam will make more torque than a dual pattern, and so on

I will read from the beginning then. Thus why I asked. Thanks,

Crude Intentions 05-04-2019 10:16 AM

Yes EQ 320s. Trust me I want nothing to do with XRs. So far my combo has lived for 70hours. I do engines and drives every 25 hrs.

Hot Rod 29 05-04-2019 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER (Post 4685239)
Im surprised the twin LS package would be 1,000 lbs less than a 525efi engine. The ls engine is 500lbs lighter than the 525efi?

i weighed my mpi gen+ 350’s vs my new LS3’s and I’m saving nearly 400 lb each. That’s SBC vs LS.

Crude Intentions 05-04-2019 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Hot Rod 29 (Post 4685337)


i weighed my mpi gen+ 350’s vs my new LS3’s and I’m saving nearly 400 lb each. That’s SBC vs LS.

LS3 is aluminum block right? We are comparing iron blocks here

242LS 05-04-2019 08:54 PM

DynoTorque Compares
 
Here's a torque comparison of the 4 dyno sheets in this thread.....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9c4e62ac2.jpeg

phragle 05-04-2019 09:20 PM

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...de7f1b6768.jpg
Here is a 454..basic 525 sc clone, 8.5:1, AK alum heads, 731 cam... Without doing a lot of number crunching, it was a pretty budget friendly build

bck 05-04-2019 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by 242LS (Post 4685385)
Here's a torque comparison of the 4 dyno sheets in this thread.....

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...9c4e62ac2.jpeg

What magic is this? I'd like to do this.


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