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F-2 Speedy 03-22-2019 08:14 AM

mild build 454
 
I'm building a pair of 454 mag engines for a friend, he wants to hot rod it a little, Ive not messed with these before so all info is appreciated
They are fresh from the engine shop with stock short blocks assembled, forged internals, fresh 088 heads but not installed. He has 502 MPI intakes and ecms for these builds. What cam would work good with just a spring upgrade.........he's also thinking of low boost small blowers, these will be going in a 29 Outlaw with B 1's....he thinks there gen 6 blocks, going to pick them up Saturday

Does this sound like a thousand other threads..........lol

Griff 03-22-2019 01:15 PM

Is he upgrading exhaust??

F-2 Speedy 03-22-2019 01:33 PM

It will new for the application he picks

sutphen 30 03-22-2019 04:45 PM

for a mild build,,651 cam and a 5 liter whipple.:D

F-2 Speedy 03-22-2019 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4678303)
for a mild build,,651 cam and a 5 liter whipple.:D

and two new bravo's......:lolhit:

sutphen 30 03-22-2019 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4678305)
and two new bravo's......:lolhit:

way more than 2.:D

sutphen 30 03-23-2019 08:15 AM

On a serious note,I'd be inclined to use an HP500efi cam,,that would juice it up some for you,will need an ecu reprogramming.

Griff 03-23-2019 12:31 PM

All very close in specs and would work well.
Standard Crane 731 https://www.summitracing.com/parts/crn-168731/overview/make/chevrolet
731 on a 114 lob sep https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...make/chevrolet
I think 500efi cam https://www.summitracing.com/parts/c...make/chevrolet

Rookie 03-23-2019 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4678363)
On a serious note,I'd be inclined to use an HP500efi cam,,that would juice it up some for you,will need an ecu reprogramming.

I'm putting together 2 Merc 420's currently and the only thing I'm changing are the cams and going to hydraulic roller lifters. I'm using HP500EFI cams, Crane 169621. Great minds think alike. It looks like a great combination.

F-2 Speedy 03-23-2019 04:10 PM

Thanks guys just got back from Wichita with the engines, keep the ideas coming....

AllDodge 03-23-2019 05:04 PM

Finding the 29 outlaw weights 6800 with twin BBC, so if the boat doesn't catch air, 450+ should not be an issue on the drives

Griff 03-24-2019 01:27 AM

I would contact Top Quality Source for Boat MEFI ECU Tuning | CO, KS, OK, TX, NE, AR, MO | MEFI Tuning and see if they have an ECM tune already written for what you are building with one of the listed cams.

F-2 Speedy 03-24-2019 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4678408)
I'm putting together 2 Merc 420's currently and the only thing I'm changing are the cams and going to hydraulic roller lifters. I'm using HP500EFI cams, Crane 169621. Great minds think alike. It looks like a great combination.

Are the 420's 454 cubes ? what heads are you running on these.

F-2 Speedy 03-24-2019 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4678449)
I would contact Top Quality Source for Boat MEFI ECU Tuning CO, KS, OK, TX, NE, AR, MO MEFI Tuning and see if they have an ECM tune already written for what you are building with one of the listed cams.

I've done business with Ben.....good dude

F-2 Speedy 03-24-2019 08:52 AM

I noticed the specs are the same on the 168761 and 169621 112lsa

Rookie 03-24-2019 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4678466)
Are the 420's 454 cubes ? what heads are you running on these.

Mercury 454's similar to your mag motors, GM rectangle heads, flat cam, roller rockers, single plane 800carb and better exhaust.

getrdunn 03-24-2019 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4678478)
Mercury 454's similar to your mag motors, GM rectangle heads, flat cam, roller rockers, single plane 800carb and better exhaust.

i ran that same platform for years. Was a 4 mph plus gain over the 454/365 in a single 24. Then stepped up to dart oval port heads with the 502/465 cam and lightning headers. That was an awesome combo and made great power.


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