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sandslot 07-06-2019 09:11 AM

Speed limited Blackhawk
 
All- I’ve been fighting this problem with my Blackhawk for a couple of months now and I’m looking for some thoughts from some of you that may have experienced this.
Background is that this boat has not seen a lot of activity in the last four or five years, so the usual suspects coming to mind. However, I am not as familiar with the big block Chevy is I am small block so I’m looking for maybe some new areas that might not have full experience in.
Generally, the boat seems to be limited to 3500 to 4000 RPM. I’ve done the trimming in the tabs on this boat and do see some difference, but I’m not seeing the full speed that it should be seeing. The engine is a 502 magnum. I’ve refreshed the fuel as much as possible, replaced the spin on filter and even put some seafoam and injector cleaner into the fuel system. It might be getting a little better, but I’m thinking there may be a filter somewhere that I’m not familiar with that maybe his plug? Any thoughts that come to mind? I was to i’ve refreshed the fuel as much as possible, replaced the spin on filter and even put some seafoam and injector cleaner into the fuel system. It might be getting a little better, but I’m thinking there may be a filter somewhere that I’m not familiar with that maybe his plug? Any thoughts that come to mind? Looking at some of the diagrams for this Gen V1 engine, looks like there is a fuel cooler down under the engine, but not sure if anything there could present a problem.

Trash 07-06-2019 03:07 PM

Verify throttle rigging is getting the throttle blades all the way open.
Remove, clean and flow test the injectors. These engines will lay down and lean out with injectors that haven't been used much.

That's where I'd start.

Rookie 07-06-2019 04:04 PM

Prop size? What did it usually run? This setup has performed properly in the past?

12meter joe 07-07-2019 12:02 PM

So I take it you have had the boat out again? What props are on it? 31”? What speed are you seeing at 4000?

sandslot 07-08-2019 07:00 AM

I put some chevron fuel injection cleaner and some fresh fuel and after a few hours it did hit 78mph at about 4900 rpm.... so I suppose that’s probably close enough to target to assume the balance is due to a used (not new) Engine....will see how things develop with a few more tanks of fresh fuel...

speicher lane 07-08-2019 07:44 AM

By rights, the fuel tank should have been drained and system flushed (4-5 years little use).. dirty fuel only creates bad burn and detonation.... and headaches.

What condition is your ignition system in - plugs, caps and wires? they will rob you rpm on top of the weak fuel

TomZ 07-08-2019 07:46 AM

You really should get those injectors out and cleaned/replaced. The quickest way to burn down one of these MPI set-ups is running with clogged/bad injectors. It’s a fairly easy job to do.

Reach out to oso member BUP. He can help you out with the injectors.

speicher lane 07-08-2019 07:50 AM

B.O.A.T = Bring out another thousand...starts the season for maintenance, then turns into the fuel bill

TomZ 07-08-2019 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4695578)
B.O.A.T = Bring out another thousand...starts the season for maintenance, then turns into the fuel bill

Story of my life!!

speicher lane 07-08-2019 07:53 AM

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speicher lane 07-08-2019 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4695581)


Story of my life!!

Cheaper and more effective than a therapist

TomZ 07-08-2019 07:57 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4695583)
Cheaper and more effective than a therapist

Agreed! Best money I’ve spent!

sandslot 07-08-2019 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4695576)
By rights, the fuel tank should have been drained and system flushed (4-5 years little use).. dirty fuel only creates bad burn and detonation.... and headaches.

What condition is your ignition system in - plugs, caps and wires? they will rob you rpm on top of the weak fuel

the cap, plug and wires look good. Plugs overall good. I did check compression and a few cylinders were around 140....but nothing really wrong.

Once i I know the overall operation of the engine is good (from a sensor/wiring, etc i plan to power up the engine (this winter). Nothing worse than carrying a problem into a new build. I suspect any overall speed concern or gap will go away afterwards!

sandslot 07-08-2019 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4695387)
Prop size? What did it usually run? This setup has performed properly in the past?

yep, nothing has changed from original..

sandslot 07-08-2019 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4695577)
You really should get those injectors out and cleaned/replaced. The quickest way to burn down one of these MPI set-ups is running with clogged/bad injectors. It’s a fairly easy job to do.

Reach out to oso member BUP. He can help you out with the injectors.


cleaning the injectors sounds like a good thing to do.... especially since the boat is running better each time I run it.

who is BUP

sandslot 07-08-2019 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4695582)

for or some reason this link did not work...I’ll try later on my desktop

Baja Rooster 07-08-2019 02:37 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4695578)
B.O.A.T = Bring out another thousand...starts the season for maintenance, then turns into the fuel bill

Those are 1970’s prices. Now it’s B.O.A.T.T.

Gimme Fuel 07-10-2019 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by TomZ (Post 4695577)
You really should get those injectors out and cleaned/replaced. The quickest way to burn down one of these MPI set-ups is running with clogged/bad injectors. It’s a fairly easy job to do.

Reach out to oso member BUP. He can help you out with the injectors.

Do this ^^^^^^^ 10,000% correct. Dare you to ask me how I know haha. The fuel injectors in these Merc motors are horrible, especially when laid up for long periods. I have same motors and an injector that flowed 24% low roasted my piston and ruined my day and month. Engine even "felt" like it was running "good" too!

sandslot 07-10-2019 04:46 PM

Thank you for the input..... I’ve decided I’ll just replace them. Any particular brand or outlet?

beaver 3 07-10-2019 06:38 PM

getting them cleaned and flowed is better than new. atleast you will know for sure they have been tested good. new ones are just supposed to be good.

speicher lane 07-10-2019 06:44 PM

contact BUP for your replacements as well!... the Chinese injectors are not worth the damage as they don't all flow correctly from new...search on here an you will find a number of threads


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