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Tractionless 08-04-2019 11:06 AM

Never run my junk 7.4 lx mpi's under 1/4 tank, nor any other vehicle.

PARASAIL941 08-04-2019 11:14 AM

I've had the same failure on some old blow thru carbed turbo motors years ago ( till I got them dialed in). Happens quickly and cuts a perfect groove. Lean motors usually make more power until... Good luck.

RBeyer 08-04-2019 12:53 PM


Originally Posted by SABER28 (Post 4700245)
to me that looks too smooth to be a casting break. ive replaced 20 plus engines that broke a mount or boss in a automobile collision and they always are very rough on the surface. how deep is the gouge?

I/2 an inch or more. It is not entirely smooth, it almost looks like it let looses and the heat took over. You can see casting like a break with the surface starting to smooth over like melting. It certainly could be burnt but the block is perfect including the deck and that is the only damaged. we even pulled the valves and they are perfect. Even the adjacent Intake. I get the Inconel not burning.

SABER28 08-04-2019 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by RBeyer (Post 4700263)
I/2 an inch or more. It is not entirely smooth, it almost looks like it let looses and the heat took over. You can see casting like a break with the surface starting to smooth over like melting. It certainly could be burnt but the block is perfect including the deck and that is the only damaged. we even pulled the valves and they are perfect. Even the adjacent Intake. I get the Inconel not burning.

yes, now that i think about it why didnt the block burn up too? i could see if the heads were aluminum they would go first.

this is why i went with big (557) cube n.a. engines. big , fat , and lazy engines that make good power without trying hard. those blower motors require everything just right and you know fuel quality can be an issue.

Rookie 08-04-2019 07:25 PM

I had the same failure in my old Merc 420 NA. Brought the head to the machine shop. They welded it up, machined it smooth, put a straight edge on the block, new gasket and it was good to go. The block doesn't get torched because the block has cooling. As stated earlier, the head has a hot spot there.

Full Force 08-04-2019 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4700294)
I had the same failure in my old Merc 420 NA. Brought the head to the machine shop. They welded it up, machined it smooth, put a straight edge on the block, new gasket and it was good to go. The block doesn't get torched because the block has cooling. As stated earlier, the head has a hot spot there.

This^^ block is cooled that's not a casting issue, any casting issue would surface right away, lean issues melt thigs very fast, seconds...

RBeyer 08-05-2019 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4700298)
This^^ block is cooled that's not a casting issue, any casting issue would surface right away, lean issues melt thigs very fast, seconds...

It was, maybe 20 seconds.

Full Force 08-05-2019 05:17 AM

All it takes..

Tinkerer 08-05-2019 05:47 AM

If a piece had broken off you would have damage to the head and cylinder from the piece ratling around in there.
You ran lean.

SABER28 08-05-2019 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tinkerer (Post 4700337)
If a piece had broken off you would have damage to the head and cylinder from the piece ratling around in there.
You ran lean.

yes you would think that chuck would cause damage on the way out. that is amazing to me that it cut right through like a torch. learn something everyday.


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