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Old 11-07-2002 | 01:08 PM
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Cord, would you happen to know what the measurements would be to find the X when there is a Stellings extension box on the transom? thanks
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Old 11-07-2002 | 04:08 PM
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Depending on what the transom angle was, Stellings told me that their box was designed for a neutral rise. I think that angle was 13*. If your transom is over that number the drive is deeper, if under the drive is higher.

Based off the the numbers that I have here, it looks like the adder number would be 11-3/8" when the box is on the center hole. The center to center distance between the drilled holes is 1". My box has the slots and the center to center distance is 2 1/2". These boxes do not have a 3" travel. The slot length is 3", but that's not the travel distance. Some creative measuring going on here...

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Old 11-07-2002 | 07:40 PM
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Hey Cord, I measured my "X" the quickie way and the dimension from the bottom of the transom plate to the delta pad is 5.75". I run with a 2.5" short shaft drive. Does this put me into what you would consider an "aggresive" drive height? You seem to be pretty up on this so I thought I would pick your brain.
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Old 11-07-2002 | 08:33 PM
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Vette,
What drive are you running that is 2.5" shorter?
Is it an Imco?
How does it plane off and on what hull are you running?
What prop pitch and number of blades?
I am considering going to a short drive and was curious as to what setup you have.
I know your running some big horsepower.
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Old 11-07-2002 | 09:53 PM
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Cord My stelling boxes are in the basement so i just measured them with digital readout gauge they read 13.5*
Mine are three hole type. just read stellings Bravo ad------
"When our stand-off box is bolted on using existing holes and the bravo drive is mounted onto the backof the box the drivehas been moved 12" back and 1" up on the X dimension. Whats more. on the X-dimension,the box is adjustable 1" up or down and has a 1" rise built into the box". I guess the information depends on who you talk to. or what ad they put out. I hope this helps

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Old 11-07-2002 | 10:16 PM
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Cool Kaama/Mark

Its me Bart/28 props
My X-dimen. is 16-1/4 with stellings mounted, I am 4" below transom/hull and am going with a 2" imco short drive. I have a call into Richie Sutphen. Eddie from smitty marine (Wazzup, 32ft Viper does 102-111) said I could be up one more inch any thing higher wont help.He is running imco boxes with bravo 30s. Viper boat has same bottom as sutphen. (26*V i had to measure it) he is running 30 cu x2=60cu more then me.
 
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Old 11-08-2002 | 02:57 AM
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Bart/454hoho,

I always have known it was you bud. The transom on my 32'A/T does NOT have a notch, therefore I was told that with the Stellings boxes I would really benefit from a 2" shorter drive. Does your Sutphen have a notched transom? I'm quite sure a shorter drive will help on the speed, but is there much in the way of giving up any stability or planing off? Some guys are willing to do pretty much anything in the name of SPEED!!! Of course I like the speed too, but not at the expense of safety, handling and planing-----I'm sure there is a fine line and I don't want to cross it.

My Stellings boxes are mounted as high as I could get them on the transom. I was told to do this by the manufacturer. They (extension boxes) also have three positional mounting holes. With mine, I am using the bottom mounting holes so as to utilize the greatest heigth advantage I can get, so I can always lower the drives if I need to------did I say that right? LOL

BTW Bart, how's your boat coming along bro?
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Old 11-08-2002 | 07:16 AM
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RLW, I meant a 2" IMCO shortie. I am confusing it with my dads alpha ss which is 2.5" shorter than the standard alpha. The boat is a 1990 Baja 210 Sport with decent HP. I run a 4 blade 14.5" x 29 Spinelli which I have seen a best top speed pof 97.8 and a 15"x 27 Quad 4 for a best speed of 96.9. I turn both props in the 6000 to 6300 RPM range. The boat has trouble coming on plane with 3 blade props, but it can be done. With the 4 blade props there is no prob.
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Old 11-08-2002 | 08:01 AM
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Hoho-in regards to the stellings ad...I think we are both saying the same thing. From what I've been told, when you put a box onto a transom, the drive essentally ends up being 1" deeper. This has to do with the attack angle of the boat and the tansom angle. When stellings built a 1" rise into their box, they essentally cancelled the drop for a neutral rise...assuming a 13* transom angle.

I also want to confirm that the 13.5" dimension is from the drive centerline to the bottom of the box. I based my number off some drawings that I had here at work, and I didn't account for that rise that's built into box. I'm trying to figure where the additional inch came from.

Vette-If we run the numbers...5.75"+9.25"+2"=17" That would put you right at the top of the range for a 13* transom.

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Old 11-08-2002 | 09:38 AM
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Vette,
Thanks for the information. Sounds like the Imco would work for me. My measuement is 5.875" from the Transom Assembly to Keel and I am running a standard length Bravo.
Boat is a 1989 27' Activator.
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