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Dboss33 11-04-2019 06:25 PM

Winterizing Question
 
Hello,

I have a 86 scarab panther, 7.4 mercs. Keep in a lifted slip and had originally planned to pull boat for winter and drop at marina last weekend to winterize, decided to leave in slip for winter under cover and not clog the driveway up. Needless to say marina can’t winterize til Thanksgiving now. We live in Virginia but looks a little colder than normal. Calling for 45/25 and 45/27 this weekend, then a few more nights in 30/28 range next few weeks.

Marina told me unless it stays below freezing solid for a day or two, no worries. Thoughts??

jeff32 11-04-2019 06:37 PM

Agreed! But keep an eye out on the thermometer!
if you can put a light bulb in the bilge!

speicher lane 11-04-2019 06:47 PM

5 hours at 23F (-5C) will freeze and prob split.

There is another thread on here about a thermostatically controlled/ C.G certified bilge heater - don't recall price but cheaper than engines if the threat of a freeze is there.... or drain your cooling systems to minimize damage

ICDEDPPL 11-04-2019 07:28 PM

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ine-block.html



24* for 24hrs is the general rule.

F-2 Speedy 11-04-2019 07:33 PM

Id pull all the plugs, who can predict the weather

mike tkach 11-04-2019 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by speicher lane (Post 4713624)
5 hours at 23F (-5C) will freeze and prob split.

There is another thread on here about a thermostatically controlled/ C.G certified bilge heater - don't recall price but cheaper than engines if the threat of a freeze is there.... or drain your cooling systems to minimize damage

i have a couple of these,dont remember what they cost but they work well.

Griff 11-05-2019 01:06 AM

If those are the actual low temps, they will only be that low for a couple hours and you'll be fine.
If it changes and they're gonna be lower, I'd do the lightbulb option or just drop it in the water. The water temp will be significantly warmer than the air temp.

F14A water jet 11-05-2019 07:21 AM

Another thread on this and I decided:

https://www.boatownersworld.com/cafr...-400-watt.html

Xtreme Small Boat Heater - 300 Watt

Mentalpause 11-05-2019 08:32 AM

You should be fine at those temps, especially this time of year over the water while the water temps are warmer than air temps. This time of year at LOTO many marinas will tell you sustained temp around 20 for 24 hours given the water temps are still around 60. Testing their theory would make me a bit nervous, but the light bulb or 2 will work for the next 3 weeks.

Sydwayz 11-05-2019 10:52 AM

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Just put a 100W bulb in a droplight in the bilge. These work great for that task. I always went with two in case of a bulb failure.

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flashgordon 11-06-2019 07:05 AM

as already mentioned , i would remove all plugs in water system,
or you could do the light for heat .

zz28zz 11-06-2019 11:20 PM

I remember reading on this site abt a guy who stored on lift and relied on a bilge heater of some sort. Big ice storm hit. Power went out and he couldn't get to the boat in time due to roads being impassable. 3 cracked blocks.

I would drain it and sleep well.

SS496 11-07-2019 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4713990)
I remember reading on this site abt a guy who stored on lift and relied on a bilge heater of some sort. Big ice storm hit. Power went out and he couldn't get to the boat in time due to roads being impassable. 3 cracked blocks.

I would drain it and sleep well.

^ this...its not hard to do....why risk it?

Ive even put ball valves on my drains...I drain it every time I pull it out of the water since I get sent out for work on less then a moments notice.

Pismo10 11-09-2019 03:51 PM

4 plugs, circ hose, raw water pump hoses, 5 minutes.

F14A water jet 11-12-2019 09:48 AM

Anyone use a heating pad...like you use when you have a sprained back?

F-2 Speedy 11-12-2019 09:57 AM

Ask 92nsx ( Rob ) how the heating blanket worked for him..........:poopoo:

F14A water jet 11-12-2019 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4714657)
Ask 92nsx ( Rob ) how the heating blanket worked for him..........:poopoo:

I will reach out to Rob BUT don't leave me hanging :-)...what happened?

F-2 Speedy 11-12-2019 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by F14A water jet (Post 4714665)
I will reach out to Rob BUT don't leave me hanging :-)...what happened?

The blanket caught the boat on fire, lucky he didn't lose the shop

Unlimited jd 11-12-2019 11:41 AM

I hate leaving heaters or lights like those unattended. Seen way too many fires started by them, or a faulty cord.

F14A water jet 11-12-2019 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4714666)
The blanket caught the boat on fire, lucky he didn't lose the shop

Wow...that seems like a rare occurrence...maybe I'll just go with the shop light idea.
I actually thought about putting the heating pad on the outdrives and allowing the heat to "conduct" into the engine bay.

F14A water jet 11-12-2019 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Unlimited jd (Post 4714673)
I hate leaving heaters or lights like those unattended. Seen way too many fires started by them, or a faulty cord.

Agreed...unfortunately my bilge heater does not arrive until tomorrow...and tonight in NC is going to be record cold.
The garage is subterranean on three sides...so I am probably overly concerned.

Baja Rooster 11-12-2019 01:52 PM

I put ball valves on my block with some wing plugs just for good measure. Waaaay easier than fumbling with any wrench in there.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...df5a578ef.jpeg

F14A water jet 11-12-2019 02:31 PM

^^^ I'll do this soon!

flashgordon 11-13-2019 06:25 AM

i think GETRDUNN posted this how to do,,,i added 3/8 pipe to AN 6 fitting, then 16-18 inches of number 6 stainless, then AN 6 fitting and cap plug.
works great ,as before my closed water system was added , it was really hard to reach fitting on side of block, and now with closed coolant system , i can t reach anything on STBD motor,,so works great as fitting / plug lay in front on motors.

DRAIN THE MOTORS...

F14A water jet 11-13-2019 06:50 AM

I have open cooling and big blocks in a Formula. Its tight in the engine bay but I will retrofit a system...I just need to learn more about the boat/motors.

farmo83 11-13-2019 01:07 PM

I've always drained mine or pull the thermostat and dumped anti freeze in the block.

My kept a light in his boat but lost power during a winter storm one year and it cost him a 454. After that I won't take chances on being dependent on power.

F14A water jet 11-13-2019 01:38 PM


Originally Posted by farmo83 (Post 4714849)
I've always drained mine or pull the thermostat and dumped anti freeze in the block.

My kept a light in his boat but lost power during a winter storm one year and it cost him a 454. After that I won't take chances on being dependent on power.

My storage garage up here (North Carolina) this year did not get below 50F but I need to figure out how to do this.
I might get one or two cold snaps in Pensacola (boat will be on lift over water)...but "boatable" weather come all year round. So I don't want anything too finite/permanent/expensive.

Redneckcustoms13 11-13-2019 02:45 PM

As nice as your boat is, and as much as you plan to use it, I would put closed loop on it and only have the exhaust running the salty crap through it.

F14A water jet 11-13-2019 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by Redneckcustoms13 (Post 4714865)
As nice as your boat is, and as much as you plan to use it, I would put closed loop on it and only have the exhaust running the salty crap through it.

When I get it down there I will use your experience and investigate that option.
Tom

flashgordon 11-14-2019 07:45 AM


Originally Posted by F14A water jet (Post 4714857)
My storage garage up here (North Carolina) this year did not get below 50F but I need to figure out how to do this.
I might get one or two cold snaps in Pensacola (boat will be on lift over water)...but "boatable" weather come all year round. So I don't want anything too finite/permanent/expensive.

send you PM.............

F14A water jet 11-14-2019 08:08 AM


Originally Posted by flashgordon (Post 4714929)
send you PM.............

Replied...come on down!

Dboss33 11-24-2019 05:41 PM

Thanks for all the help, drained and backfilled with anti. Picked up a bilge heater as well for insurance if we go through early cold snaps next year.


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