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Sydwayz 12-15-2019 01:11 AM

Grounds and the hot to the starter good? If the are warm/hot after running, they could be overly heat soaked and not conducting well, resulting in dropped power to your starter.

SkiDoc 12-15-2019 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by zz28zz (Post 4718493)
I would replace points and condenser just cause they're old. Ballast is probably OK but should be measured and inspected visually. If it's still doing it, double check for fuel leaking inside carb bores with throttle blades wide open immediately after shutdown. Have the air cleaner off before shutdown and have a bright flashlight light ready. That's what it sounds like to me. Check float levels on the water.

BTW, you stated you have to crack the throttle to start, which helps when flooded.
Pumping the throttle only helps if running too lean.
Shouldn't have to do both.

I have adjusted the floats perfect but I didn't check for fuel dripping with the blades wide open, I just looked with the blades closed. Thanks for pointing that out.
When it fires there is a lot of steam and some black/brown smoke which makes me wonder about water in the combustion chamber. I would think if water was getting in there I would have some difference in the way the starter turns the engine over but there seems to be none. Oil looks new with no contamination.

I can't get parts for the distributor. Probably going to go with a pertronix flamethrower III or DUI.

SkiDoc 12-15-2019 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 4718497)
Grounds and the hot to the starter good? If the are warm/hot after running, they could be overly heat soaked and not conducting well, resulting in dropped power to your starter.

The cables are old but seem reasonable. They were on my list to replace with some custom length ones. The starter turns the engine over very strong when warm. No difference when cold.

SB 12-15-2019 06:54 AM

You didn’t fully answer my questions. What do you have the choke wired to?


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4718393)
Usually Choke wiring/setting or ignition issues.

Exactly how is your choke wired ? It has to be a 12 volt source and activated when key is turned to run.

Is your dist a points system ?

Also, so in that freezing weather, it started fine when engine was cold ?

sutphen 30 12-15-2019 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4718508)
You didn’t fully answer my questions. What do you have the choke wired to?



Also, so in that freezing weather, it started fine when engine was cold ?

could have choke wire on the wrong side of the ballast.seen that a few times.plus,is there a wire from the other small post on the start to the coil plus,,this is there for full 12v when starting only.

SB 12-15-2019 10:07 AM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4718526)
could have choke wire on the wrong side of the ballast.seen that a few times.plus,is there a wire from the other small post on the start to the coil plus,,this is there for full 12v when starting only.

Yup.that is what i’m digging for. Why i asked if points. Next was the 12v to coil only when starting, even though he seems to say starts fine when cold but not hot.

not getting clear info. Oh well.

SkiDoc 12-15-2019 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4718508)
You didn’t fully answer my questions. What do you have the choke wired to?



Also, so in that freezing weather, it started fine when engine was cold ?

Thanks finally got to check it out.
Positive wire to choke is from the side of ballast where the power goes in.
There is a wire from the starter that goes to the out side of the ballast.
The engine started how it typically does when cold.

SkiDoc 12-15-2019 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4718533)
Yup.that is what i’m digging for. Why i asked if points. Next was the 12v to coil only when starting, even though he seems to say starts fine when cold but not hot.

not getting clear info. Oh well.

Thanks there are points. They are worn should be replaced but the distributor is so old I can't find the Mallory number on any website to look up points.

The wire to the positive side of the coil comes from the out side of the ballast.

ezstriper 12-17-2019 03:31 PM

I would adj the choke all the way open and remove the pos wire, with a holley should start fine with no choke, see what that does, best thing you can do ign wise is a DUI HEI, also might try a plastic heat insulator spacer under the carb in case its heat soak

Rookie 12-17-2019 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by SkiDoc (Post 4718505)
I can't get parts for the distributor. Probably going to go with a pertronix flamethrower III or DUI.

I did one of those Pertronix points conversion boxes for an old 351 Ford years ago. One of the best $70 I've spent on a boat.


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