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hogie roll 04-24-2020 03:22 PM

615 low deck!
 
What do the internet experts (like myself) think?

Does shafiroff know something we don’t?

https://www.shafiroff.com/chevy-pump...wg-twisted.php

GPM 04-24-2020 04:57 PM

Sounds nice !

F-2 Speedy 04-24-2020 05:23 PM

Id like to see how much of the pan rail is left.....lol

hogie roll 04-24-2020 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4735391)
Id like to see how much of the pan rail is left.....lol

according to dart:

• Accepts crankshaft strokes up to 5.000 inch for large displacement applications with clearancing

getrdunn 04-25-2020 03:22 PM

Would love to do the same just not for an endurance engine you beet the pisssss out hours on end.

F-2 Speedy 04-25-2020 03:39 PM

I see bore and stroke but not rod length....did I miss it

getrdunn 04-26-2020 06:37 AM

I'd guess it would have to be a 6.385? What ever combo I'd like to see one tore down after numerous dyno pulls assuming parts aren't scattered throughout. Pistsons side lode etc... yikes but I have no real world experience so I can't honestly say. I grew up with to many old school builders I guess but there still in business after 40 years.

benjen 04-26-2020 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735596)
I'd guess it would have to be a 6.385? What ever combo I'd like to see one tore down after numerous dyno pulls assuming parts aren't scattered throughout. Pistsons side lode etc... yikes but I have no real world experience so I can't honestly say. I grew up with to many old school builders I guess but there still in business after 40 years.

I can assure you parts are not scattered all over the place after a few dyno pulls. This is not a new combo for Shafiroff. Been around several years and makes big horsepower!

Unlimited jd 04-26-2020 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735596)
I'd guess it would have to be a 6.385? What ever combo I'd like to see one tore down after numerous dyno pulls assuming parts aren't scattered throughout. Pistsons side lode etc... yikes but I have no real world experience so I can't honestly say. I grew up with to many old school builders I guess but there still in business after 40 years.

rods are probably shorter. At 6.385 the pin would be in the dome

getrdunn 04-26-2020 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by benjen (Post 4735611)
I can assure you parts are not scattered all over the place after a few dyno pulls. This is not a new combo for Shafiroff. Been around several years and makes big horsepower!


Make note I said several not a few. Regardless no dig at Scott or his engines/company at all and know they've been around for many years with very few mostly pity complaints/issues. Does the equation work out to a std 6.135 rod? I didn't do the math but with that bore and stroke just took a stab at it. Nothing in that combo seems right in my head when I see all the potential concerns but NOTHING makes sense to me these days. Lol.

I see there has been more and more of the large CI taking it to a how new level over the last (which is now actually several years). Why not push the limits... Just not that combo for me as all.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fe6ec74d1e.png

getrdunn 04-26-2020 10:20 AM

I would think JE must have a shelf labeled specifically for shafiroff loaded with various custom pistons for all the secret combos. Definately fun to navigate their website. I just looked and the two low deck 615/925 pump gas builds. The solid roller 925@6,200 and the hyd roller 925@6,500???

:party-smiley-004:

benjen 04-26-2020 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735646)
Make note I said several not a few. Regardless no dig at Scott or his engines/company at all and know they've been around for many years with very few mostly pity complaints/issues. Does the equation work out to a std 6.135 rod? I didn't do the math but with that bore and stroke just took a stab at it. Nothing in that combo seems right in my head when I see all the potential concerns but NOTHING makes sense to me these days. Lol.

I see there has been more and more of the large CI taking it to a how new level over the last (which is now actually several years). Why not push the limits... Just not that combo for me as all.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fe6ec74d1e.png

Well we happen to own one of those engines. It has more than several dyno pulls on the drag strip. We first put the engine in a 79 pro street camaro. With M/T street legal big sportsman tires weighing 3280lbs. the car ran [email protected]. We than pulled the engine, sold the camaro and bought an old pro stock car, an 05 grand am. At pro stock weight, 2350 with driver, the car ran [email protected]. This was running fairly conservative shifting at 6,000. Engine makes another 50-75 horse in the high 6 to low 7000 range.

getrdunn 04-27-2020 03:22 PM

That’s good to here and know seriously. Makes me kinda jealous actually when I coulda went that route rather than 565’s and picked some worthy power. Already have new rotating assemblies. Went old school 4,600, 4.25, 6.385 combo. That’s what I like about topics on OSO.

benjen 04-27-2020 05:05 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735887)
That’s good to here and know seriously. Makes me kinda jealous actually when I coulda went that route rather than 565’s and picked some worthy power. Already have new rotating assemblies. Went old school 4,600, 4.25, 6.385 combo. That’s what I like about topics on OSO.

They actually have a new race version ( all upgraded components lifters, rockers, etc. 15.5 compression! Serious money $24k) of the 615 low deck with 20 degree heads that makes 1215hp.

benjen 04-27-2020 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735887)
That’s good to here and know seriously. Makes me kinda jealous actually when I coulda went that route rather than 565’s and picked some worthy power. Already have new rotating assemblies. Went old school 4,600, 4.25, 6.385 combo. That’s what I like about topics on OSO.

They actually have a new race version ( all upgraded components lifters, rockers, etc. 15.5 compression! Serious money $24k) of the 615 low deck with 20 degree heads that makes 1215hp.

hogie roll 04-27-2020 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4735646)
Make note I said several not a few. Regardless no dig at Scott or his engines/company at all and know they've been around for many years with very few mostly pity complaints/issues. Does the equation work out to a std 6.135 rod? I didn't do the math but with that bore and stroke just took a stab at it. Nothing in that combo seems right in my head when I see all the potential concerns but NOTHING makes sense to me these days. Lol.

I see there has been more and more of the large CI taking it to a how new level over the last (which is now actually several years). Why not push the limits... Just not that combo for me as all.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...fe6ec74d1e.png

I’m guessing it’s the middle combo. 1.1” seems typical.

SBC guys were running more extreme rod ratios and compression heights than stroked BBCs for years. Only a matter of time before someone decided to try them.

I also thought I had a unique idea to help do this, but it turns out piston buttons are already a thing. Nothing new under the sun I tell ya.

SB 04-27-2020 05:34 PM

Why would you want a low deck block with that much stroke in a boat ? Not a sarcastic question.

sutphen 30 04-27-2020 05:45 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4735927)
Why would you want a low deck block with that much stroke in a boat ? Not a sarcastic question.

so the headers don't go over my engine hatch.need to let the sutphen ho's suntan.:D

hogie roll 04-27-2020 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4735927)
Why would you want a low deck block with that much stroke in a boat ? Not a sarcastic question.

Why would I want a 615 instead of a 565? I don’t really need to explain that do I?


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