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Old 05-18-2020, 11:29 AM
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Have you pulled the drive off and checked to see if the phantom noise disappeared?

May be a "Way out there" item to check (and easier to check than pulling engine) as most times it sounds like a "grinding" or "howl" that is transmitted through the transom assembly.... but, if the big Tapered roller bearing on the top of the drive carrying the input shaft behind the yoke is on its way out/ or merely several rollers have flat spotted on the bearing, it will be hard to detect and doesn't transmit from outside the boat (unless really bad) - just behind the engine in the compartment.

.. and yes a bad bearing can/ does stop making noise at a certain rpm as the harmonics level out.

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Old 05-18-2020, 12:48 PM
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Sometimes the exhaust pulses echoing off the transom can cause a rattling/clunking sound while idling...
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Old 05-19-2020, 07:37 AM
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loose rocker arm??????
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by IRONMAN
Thanks guys,
there is no flywheel cover but there could be something in behind there, I fished a magnet down behind the flywheel and did not catch anything.
There is no Y pipe and I think the mufflers are HPI, I can stop the external rubber flappers with screwdrivers and still heve the rattling noise. there are no internal flappers in the cmi tails ahead of the mufflers. I may just need to pull the engine but would like to know if anyone has seen this, very strange.
Rubber flaopers won’t make the noise but loose metal in the mufflers sure will.

I’ve seen multiple Corsa’s do this, thus why I asked. Doesn’t mean HPI’s are immune.
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:32 PM
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both mufflers sound the same with the scope so I think I can rule them out. per above on fuel rail scope I have a holley carb so no fuel rail here.
I will try to see if the coupler is loose somehow before I bull the thing. thx
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Old 05-19-2020, 08:35 PM
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I have the same noise in my boat. Pulled the 330, put a 420 in it with new exhaust and tips, reused coupler and bellhousing, still the same noise. I would say it has to be one of those things. Nothing visually wrong with them upon reinstall 🤷‍♂️
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There are typically metal valves that open in Formula's tips, inside the flapper. Take off the exhaust tube ad look at the tips fro the inside of the engine compartment. They rattle.
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Old 05-24-2020, 12:46 PM
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put on a new coupler and new coupler bolts, the ones with the shoulder for tight fit ent to the coupler holes. someone had just used regular grade 8 bolts. Noise fixed, all good now.
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Old 05-24-2020, 06:07 PM
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Just because the drive is removed, a rattling coupler will still rattle.
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Old 05-24-2020, 06:36 PM
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So what was the noise? Defect in coupler, wrong bolts so coupler wasn’t actually tight to flywheel, or wasn’t centered because shoulder bolts weren’t used? Weird that it made noise even with drive out and no spline shaft in coupler. Kudos to you for finding that.
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