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Old 09-27-2020 | 08:22 AM
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I first put closed cooling in my Cigarette back in the early 80's after losing my first set of heads to saltwater. I lived in Chicago at the time but the boat spent winters in Florida. Only had 800 hp at the time. To be honest I didn't do the math as far as sizing but put in the biggest heat exchangers I could fit (6" x 30" ) knowing I would wind up with more power. I mounted them in front of the rear engine.

The expansion tank is visible on the forward bulkhead. This pic is from early 90's when I had 1000 hp blower motors ps they ran on 89 octane. Water temp would hold at whatever the thermostat regardless of speed.
I'll see if I can find some better pictures.

The benefits of closed cooling are way more than the lack or corrosion:
  • Constant block pressure with glycol raises boiling point - helps control steam pockets
  • Constant block temp
  • Non aerated water in block removes heat better - see above
  • Unrestricted water flow through oil coolers and exhaust
Later in life I did some more projects, all closed cooled.

I still have a pair of big heat exchangers at the shop. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.





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Old 09-27-2020 | 08:59 AM
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Hey Mark were you able to run a reg merc seapump on that setup or did it require a two or three stage pump?
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Old 09-27-2020 | 09:33 AM
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At the time there really weren't any multistage around. I was going to build something but never got around to it. My other idea was a much larger sea pump and slow the rpm down on it.

I wound up lowering my transom water pickups so I had pressure at speed. I measured the pressure at the header feed tube. That's all that really matters with the closed system.

I am sure I lost a few MPH in the process. Today I would run either a multi-stage or bigger pump for sure. Also I would plumb the water system with 1 1/4 pipe (1 1/2" hose) instead of 1" (1 1/4" hose)
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Old 09-27-2020 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mbam
I first put closed cooling in my Cigarette back in the early 80's after losing my first set of heads to saltwater. I lived in Chicago at the time but the boat spent winters in Florida. Only had 800 hp at the time. To be honest I didn't do the math as far as sizing but put in the biggest heat exchangers I could fit (6" x 30" ) knowing I would wind up with more power. I mounted them in front of the rear engine.

The expansion tank is visible on the forward bulkhead. This pic is from early 90's when I had 1000 hp blower motors ps they ran on 89 octane. Water temp would hold at whatever the thermostat regardless of speed.
I'll see if I can find some better pictures.

The benefits of closed cooling are way more than the lack or corrosion:
  • Constant block pressure with glycol raises boiling point - helps control steam pockets
  • Constant block temp
  • Non aerated water in block removes heat better - see above
  • Unrestricted water flow through oil coolers and exhaust
Later in life I did some more projects, all closed cooled.

I still have a pair of big heat exchangers at the shop. I'll post some pictures tomorrow.




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Great picture of a runaway dinghy navigating through the marina in the background......
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Old 09-27-2020 | 09:43 AM
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I think it was being towed lol
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Old 09-27-2020 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Fresh
All I seen is closed cooling for up to 600hp. Is there closed cooling systems for a 1200hp supercharged motor?
I might have a similar heat exchanger to Mbams at the shop. How many are you looking for?
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Old 09-27-2020 | 10:57 AM
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Thanks for all the info great project and many benefits. Thanks for the pictures. What do you think rhe percentage of people with high hp motors running closed cooling?
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Old 09-28-2020 | 04:34 PM
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I keep looking at Bam's picture and I still can't see a runaway dinghy or a heat exchanger!
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Old 09-28-2020 | 05:17 PM
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I really want to do this to my 1200hp blower motors I also hear you gain a bit of power and fuel efficiency
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Old 12-16-2022 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 14 apache
look on eBay flat plate coolers have a set on 1200hp turbo motors and na960hp 10x20” around 50 plate.
14 apache..........The flat plate exchanger (cooler) seems like a great alternative to the shell & tube exchanger typically used on closed cooling systems.
There many times less the size and many times cheaper............do you still operate with a flat plate exchanger?.....Seems the way to go since a hi perf
closed cooling system by Monitor or PPT is far more expensive and there backordered till spring.............any picture you can share?
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