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Old 11-15-2002 | 09:44 AM
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twin 1050's is way too much carb. or they could have them jetted very small ?!Seems like a waste.
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Old 11-15-2002 | 09:53 AM
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My carb/motor seems to fit the calculations pretty close.

(461 X 5200)/3456 = 693.63425
6/14.7 +1 = 1.4081632

693.63425 X 1.4081632 = 976.75022

I run a single 950 jetted with 90's.

I had used a different formula a while ago .............. don't qite remember what it was but it came up quite a bit smaller.
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Old 11-15-2002 | 11:21 AM
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paradigm : it looks like you are over-carburated..

Yea I know. Had this same set up on a 540ci motor in a flat bottom hull. Turned a few more rpm with that set up to. Did not want to spend the extra $$$ for new carbs. Seems to work well for me. Still has enough to rip a bravo apart.
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Old 11-15-2002 | 06:36 PM
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These formulas DO NOT WORK, they do not take anything else into consideration such as intercooler, or not, type of cylinder heads, cam profile boat weight, drive ratios etc. You need to speak to a carburetor builder to determine what carburetors they build will work on the application. Every carburetor builder designs their product differently, and may have a different size, or caibration recommendation for the same application.
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Old 11-16-2002 | 02:28 AM
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if you are going to put blower motors in you 28 skater i want to take out a life insurance policy on you.
 
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Old 11-16-2002 | 06:38 AM
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Old 10-13-2003 | 06:36 AM
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info revisited
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Old 10-13-2003 | 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by RumRunner
These formulas DO NOT WORK, they do not take anything else into consideration such as intercooler, or not, type of cylinder heads, cam profile boat weight, drive ratios etc. You need to speak to a carburetor builder to determine what carburetors they build will work on the application. Every carburetor builder designs their product differently, and may have a different size, or caibration recommendation for the same application.

I'm a former carburetor builder and I can say that you are right but only to certain extent. The formulas used in this thread are correct and should be used for a rough starting point. All of the factors you mentioned are considered in this formula, however for optimum performance very fine-tuning is needed. First off the normally aspirated (NA) formula given is based on 100% VE. Now no (NA) engine is going to perform at 100% VE and that is where the combined skills of a good carb and engine builder come into play. Without getting into the long boring specifics such as flow bench and BSFC numbers, perfecting carburetors is and soon to be was a science. You can spend thousands not including the price for the carb to get one just right, but let there be no mistake. Fuel injection is far superior and in short time will dominate offshore powerboats of the future. The marine FI systems at this time may still have their bugs but will greatly improve over time.

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Old 10-13-2003 | 09:08 AM
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There is another way to think about this. The engine/blower is going to take in as much air as its cylinder heads, blower speed, intercooling and piping etc. will allow. This will not change to a great degree with different carb sizes. This was proven in an article about Demon carbs with interchangeable venturi sizes.

What can change a lot is how much fuel you need to add to the air, and how the carb "knows" when and how much to add. This is where you need the carb experts to help, especially on blowthrough carbs.

The important thing to know on any blown engine is the final density ratio of the air entering the cylinders vs. atmospheric. The BDS formula takes the boost ratio into account, but you also need to know the temperature ratio. Its not too difficult to measure these. It still just gives you a starting point.
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Old 10-19-2003 | 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by paradigm shift
Are you looking for carburation set as jet sizes etc or fiqures on how to calculate what cfm you should run?

now i need to find out jet sizes.

engine:520 cu in
carbs: 2 x 800 cfm
rpm: 6000
b&m 8-71 8 pounds of boost

what size of jets i should use?
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