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xlint89 09-30-2021 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by boostbros (Post 4807522)
you can add rpm and wind it up higher as that does not hurt the drive its the torque down low thats hard on them

Doesn't that add more stress on the valve train though? I thought big blocks didn't like a lot of RPM? What's generally a safe RPM to spin a BBC? Merc recommendation is usually around 5200.


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4807533)
Merc 500hp is the crane 721 which has 222/230 at .050"
Crane 731 is 226/234 at .050" 112lsa
Merc 500 EFI is Crane 230/236 at .050 " with 114LSA
Crane 741 is 236/244 at .050" with 112lsa
Merc 525EFI is Crane 236/244 at .050" with 114LSA

That is some good info right there. Thank you


Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL (Post 4807556)
Work on the engine in the boat !?. Hard pass! So much easier to work on it sitting in a shop as mentioned.
Can`t be that hard to pull the thing out .. I pul mine to change the oil :whistle:

If I had the tools and space, I'm sure you're right. I however, need to arrange someone else to remove, another to rebuild, and the first guy to re-install. I truly envy some of you guys.

sutphen 30 09-30-2021 08:45 PM

merc 1075's go to 6200,I spun my old 454's to 6800,and held it there for 25miles.:D,would have gone further but started to run out of gas,,in the tank.:D
need to get the valve springs right and they'll spin up.

TomZ 09-30-2021 09:18 PM

Exactly.

Old sixties NASCAR big blocks turned well over 6k plus for 500 miles with parts that were much older technology and heavy. Spinning a more modern-built Gen VI 502 to 6k for short sprints (with good oiling and cooling) isn’t going to hurt it all.

Don’t be afraid to spin it up!

Griff 09-30-2021 10:12 PM


Originally Posted by xlint89 (Post 4807486)
I do not have the tools to remove the engine myself. I did speak to my mechanic, and he says it will be no problem removing it for me. Just need a couple days adavnce notice and he says about an hour or less and it will be out.

Just disconnect everything except the engine mounts and have your mechanic pull it and set it in your truck.
Do you have a garage?? Does it have a steel beam or wood ceiling joists that you double up to strengthen??
If so all you need is chain hoist and an engine stand which will cost about $300 total.

xlint89 10-01-2021 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by sutphen 30 (Post 4807581)
merc 1075's go to 6200,I spun my old 454's to 6800,and held it there for 25miles.:D,would have gone further but started to run out of gas,,in the tank.:D
need to get the valve springs right and they'll spin up.

That would be an awesome video.


Originally Posted by Griff (Post 4807593)
Just disconnect everything except the engine mounts and have your mechanic pull it and set it in your truck.
Do you have a garage?? Does it have a steel beam or wood ceiling joists that you double up to strengthen??
If so all you need is chain hoist and an engine stand which will cost about $300 total.

First option will most likely be the way to go.

My boat won't fit in the garage. :(

IGetWet 10-02-2021 03:33 AM

If you have a decent amount of room to sit and pull apart the motor in the boat is do it in the boat. Just have to keep the internals clean when you start pulling it apart and keep all the parts coming off organized. I understand not working on a side by side in the boat, no f’n way, just a terrible setup for any kind of maintenance period, but a single or staggered it’s not that big of a deal. Even with a hatch that only opens to maybe 30 degrees I didn’t have much of an issue pulling a head on my blown 525s. Having someone to hand the heavy parts as they’re coming off really helps. If you can remove your hatch that makes a world of difference too.


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RBeyer 10-04-2021 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Rookie (Post 4807273)
From a 454MPI to a HP500EFI you'd lucky to 63 maybe 64 if the moons align. 1MPH/20-25HP
https://www.go-fast.com/Knowledge-ba...eed-calculator

I would absolutely agree, the HP increase to get from 54 to 70 would be probably around 250

xlint89 10-04-2021 06:04 PM

Talked to the engine guy today.

He wants the whole engine. (Actually just the long block. says I can save a few bucks by removing all the accessories)

Hope it's just the top end. Otherwise this thing just became a REALLY expensive Hp 500. Coulda bought a rebuilt 525 for what I'm looking at now. (including purchase price of the used engine)

TomZ 10-04-2021 06:14 PM

That sucks to hear, but based on what you described, it’s probably just up in the heads. Doesn’t hurt to get a sampling on the rest of its condition while out though.

PartyRob 10-04-2021 10:58 PM

Looks like you have through hull exhaust, so I wouldn't worry about the cam. To get water ingestion you need back pressure and you'll get very little with through hull exhaust.


I'm surprised the shop said an hour to remove the engine. It comes out quick, but not really that quick two guys can have it out in an hour, but that's two hours shop time.


I agree with most everyone, I want to see the bottom end and make sure it's solid. However, sounds a like top end problem. Did you hear noise from the engine when you launched? The poor leak down could be from bad valve adjustments, bent push rod, leaky valve, or any number of other things. But it does sound like a top end problem. Poorly aligned piston rings during assembly can also result in a bad leak down test, but this is such a rookie move I doubt that's the issue. If the motor was new and wasn't fully broke in, i.e. rings seated, that could also do it.


Based on the thread, pull the motor, have it torn down, inspected, then reassembled. One problem though; I fully balance all my motors - it makes a HUGE difference. So, if it were MY engine, I would have the whole thing re-balanced to be sure.


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