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I decided to see if my fuel pressure gauges are actually even accurate at all... just to see if I'm chasing a red herring there. With my air compressor regulator set to 40 psi, one fuel pressure gauge reads 38-39 psi (close enough). The other reads 30 psi! Not close at all.
I'm sending both gauges back to the manufacturer tomorrow, so they can address the issue. Not going to touch the regulators at this point.
I'm sending both gauges back to the manufacturer tomorrow, so they can address the issue. Not going to touch the regulators at this point.
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Fuel pressure is very important, I get alot of phone calls from people wanting to "buy a replacement mefi ecm", after I talk to them a good part of time their issue goes back to low fuel pressure, idle fuel pressure with a accurate gauge will at least tell you IF your close BUT you REALLY need to see the fuel pressure at wot as at idle your injectors are open like 1.2 milliseconds at idle and accounting for dead band, more like .7 ms , at wot more like 10 MS (10 times more) so extend gauges temporarily to near helm with hoses or something as you could chase things in wrong direction without that data! those two ashy plugs in first pic look like they have saw quite alot of oil, does that motor use alot of oil, more than the other? does it ever idle to high (bad pcv) which will draw alot more oil in and maybe it gets to those two cylinders
No high idle noted thus far. PCV valves replaced last week.
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Do yourself a favor and just ditch the tiny PCV system and go with a catch can breather setup. I got some cheap Chinese ones for ~$50 each and plumbed them straight to each valve cover and capped off vacuum port on plenum. My 960+ hour 502MPI's went from burning a quart every weekend to burning a whole quart over the entire season just by letting them breathe. Mount the cans near the arrestors/TB to help suck in some of the fumes.
I also recommend having Smitty (Articfriends) flow your injectors. I learned the hard way with a melted piston from bad injector. These things are still original (sans a used piston/ring set to replace melted one) and run like swiss watches with Smitty's injectors and tuning and I actually picked up several MPH afterwards.
I also recommend having Smitty (Articfriends) flow your injectors. I learned the hard way with a melted piston from bad injector. These things are still original (sans a used piston/ring set to replace melted one) and run like swiss watches with Smitty's injectors and tuning and I actually picked up several MPH afterwards.
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Tested my Stbd fuel pressure regulator today, with compressed air. Blew off at 33-34 psi, far short of the 43 psi spec. Replaced with new Merc unit.
Also determined my distributors are in rough shape, significant corrosion, modules questionable, probably will replace both.
Also determined my distributors are in rough shape, significant corrosion, modules questionable, probably will replace both.
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Gimme Fuel (04-04-2022)
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Tested my Stbd fuel pressure regulator today, with compressed air. Blew off at 33-34 psi, far short of the 43 psi spec. Replaced with new Merc unit.
Also determined my distributors are in rough shape, significant corrosion, modules questionable, probably will replace both.
Also determined my distributors are in rough shape, significant corrosion, modules questionable, probably will replace both.
Summit Racing part #'s:
DUI-000444 Davis Unified Ignition Ignition Dyna-Module
DUI-31723 Davis Unified Ignition Screamin Demon Coil
FST-255-2416 FAST FireWire Spark Plug Wire Set
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I put the Davis Unified distributor modules and coils on my motors. Been running on them several years now after Smitty (Articfriends) recommendation from his dyno escapades. I also included the part number for a very reasonably priced spark plug wire set that fits these perfectly and has great quality for the price. Both of my fuel regulators were bypassing with low fuel pressure however are basically inaccessible without pulling engines or doing serious disassembly to access. Put a secondary universal regulator on the return line which has worked very well.
Summit Racing part #'s:
DUI-000444 Davis Unified Ignition Ignition Dyna-Module
DUI-31723 Davis Unified Ignition Screamin Demon Coil
FST-255-2416 FAST FireWire Spark Plug Wire Set
Summit Racing part #'s:
DUI-000444 Davis Unified Ignition Ignition Dyna-Module
DUI-31723 Davis Unified Ignition Screamin Demon Coil
FST-255-2416 FAST FireWire Spark Plug Wire Set
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Anyone know if the DUI modules have a built-in advance curve and what it is? I'd like to update mine - I'm carbureted now but using the Delco distributors. The modules appear to be factory original though their characteristics seem to be a little different from one another. Sorry for hijacking a little.
so after changing module, I have had to adjust base 1, 2 degrees before to get it back to the correct base number (8 degrees on most mefis) that makes the tables correct, Smitty
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Gimme Fuel (04-05-2022)
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When you remove the 4 wires attached to right side of dist, as we do for cabureted app’s, you lose the 5 volt ref and ecm ‘timing’ wire connection. When those aren’t there, the module uses it’s own advance curve.
For carbs, we just run + and - to coil, then attach two other terminals on coil to two wire connector on dist. Again, nothing plugged into 4 wire connection on dist.
Now, so much of the advance is under 1000rpm and alot under 600 rpm, most with a timing light don’t see this and think the module has no advance.
Diagram shows hook up. Diff fist but same deal. GM est/voyager dist just plugs in with two wire connector.