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AllDodge 10-18-2022 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by underpsi68 (Post 4848441)
The new 409?

No I quoted from the 620 hp wildman listed

SB 10-18-2022 10:58 AM


Originally Posted by PA.WOODCHUCK (Post 4848528)
Is it any cheaper for flat plane crank engine to be built by mercury or others?

Round table, Genuine question, not sarcastic - typing can look that way, who cares about flat plane stuff in a 400hp sub 6000 rom small lock chevy ? I’ll go one further, 500hp sub 7000rpm small block chevy ? Rpm dependability and power is not an issue of small block chevy’s..

Sure, the new top Corvette engine choices now have flat plane cranks. Why ? At that level, it’s still a ‘just because’ more than really anything.

A 33k 400hp sbc in marine trim is just craziness. What would it be with Cat exhaust ? 40k ? More ? Jeez.

Brad Christy 10-18-2022 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4848532)
Round table, Genuine question, not sarcastic - typing can look that way, who cares about flat plane stuff in a 400hp sub 6000 rom small lock chevy ? I’ll go one further, 500hp sub 7000rpm small block chevy ? Rpm dependability and power is not an issue of small block chevy’s..

Sure, the new top Corvette engine choices now have flat plane cranks. Why ? At that level, it’s still a ‘just because’ more than really anything.

A 33k 400hp sbc in marine trim is just craziness. What would it be with Cat exhaust ? 40k ? More ? Jeez.

SB,

I'm betting there's more than a handful of guys on OSO that could easily build a N/A BBC that will put out at least double that HP for WAY less than that asking price, or a blower motor that will triple that output pretty easily within that asking price.

As has already been mentioned, it wouldn't be hard to build TWO 400+HP SBCs for that price. Hell, a while back, I found a 383 on CL (didn't buy it) in the 500HP range, fully dressed for street, minus exhaust, with all new parts, including the block, for $7500.

Seems pretty egregious to me.

Thanks. Brad.
(937)545-8991

hogie roll 10-18-2022 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by SB (Post 4848532)
Round table, Genuine question, not sarcastic - typing can look that way, who cares about flat plane stuff in a 400hp sub 6000 rom small lock chevy ? I’ll go one further, 500hp sub 7000rpm small block chevy ? Rpm dependability and power is not an issue of small block chevy’s..

Sure, the new top Corvette engine choices now have flat plane cranks. Why ? At that level, it’s still a ‘just because’ more than really anything.

A 33k 400hp sbc in marine trim is just craziness. What would it be with Cat exhaust ? 40k ? More ? Jeez.

The exhaust scavenging benefit of a flat plane crank is not trivial. It would be worth 35 ft lbs of torque on the LT5 I recall.

The only trick is keeping the vibes in check.

hogie roll 10-18-2022 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by PA.WOODCHUCK (Post 4848528)
Is it any cheaper for flat plane crank engine to be built by mercury or others?

It’s always been a billet crank proposition. It would be cool and unique if they have tooled up a production one.

SB 10-18-2022 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4848536)
The exhaust scavenging benefit of a flat plane crank is not trivial. It would be worth 35 ft lbs of torque on the LT5 I recall.

The only trick is keeping the vibes in check.

In a boat with standard wet non tuned cast iron manifolds ?

SB 10-18-2022 12:21 PM

Decent article on flat plane cranks for anyone interested in this stuff:

https://www.enginelabs.com/tech-stor...e-crankshafts/

Mbam 10-18-2022 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4848529)
Can you sell just crank? Or the whole bottom end? Price?

Won't know for a while, not in the parts lookup yet. I can't imagine that it would be cost effective.

RSCHAP1 10-19-2022 05:34 AM

Wondering if any connection what so ever to newest Z06 Vette.
Only other thing I have heard domestically with flat plane crank.
Coincidence?
Doubt it, but still wonder...

underpsi68 10-19-2022 05:45 AM


Originally Posted by AllDodge (Post 4848531)
No I quoted from the 620 hp wildman listed

I was asking about the new 409 since it is being compared to the 8.1 engines. Smaller cubes, higher rpm, less torque I'm sure. Not sure it is a good replacement.


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