Steering upgrade or not?
12-08-2002 | 11:23 AM
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I was going to add a single ram "tie-in system" (not full) to my boat. I'm only running 70 so I don't need dual ram. If I need it later (i.e. if I add a Whipple), can I add the second ram later?
Also, I've heard that slow speed steering becomes VERY stiff with a tie-in system. I've also heard from some people that the steering is no stiffer. What has been everyone's experience for those that don't have the full hyd systems?
Also, I've heard that slow speed steering becomes VERY stiff with a tie-in system. I've also heard from some people that the steering is no stiffer. What has been everyone's experience for those that don't have the full hyd systems?
12-08-2002 | 12:37 PM
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Ric,
I added a single an IMCO single ram assist on a 26' Powerquest and had no trouble with it, 2 -3 hrs to install. I even had to run 150 miles up the Ohio River one time without power steering when one of the hoses developed a leak from rubbing a manifold. My shoulders were sore when we got home, but we made it back safe.
I added a single an IMCO single ram assist on a 26' Powerquest and had no trouble with it, 2 -3 hrs to install. I even had to run 150 miles up the Ohio River one time without power steering when one of the hoses developed a leak from rubbing a manifold. My shoulders were sore when we got home, but we made it back safe.
12-08-2002 | 04:10 PM
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Wow, 2 - 3 hours ??!!! The best I've heard so far is 5 hours. You must be good!!
I think IMCO builds a very high-quality product, but I'm thinking of going with WPM for one reason (maybe a dumb one). WPM uses a wing-plate attachment so that the stock rear cover on the outdrive tower (whatever it's called) stays in place. I like that simply because the Mercury Bravo One decal stays there. I just don't like the plain look when it's removed as it must be for the IMCO system. Like I said, dumb reason, but I've heard great things about the WPM system. Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
I think IMCO builds a very high-quality product, but I'm thinking of going with WPM for one reason (maybe a dumb one). WPM uses a wing-plate attachment so that the stock rear cover on the outdrive tower (whatever it's called) stays in place. I like that simply because the Mercury Bravo One decal stays there. I just don't like the plain look when it's removed as it must be for the IMCO system. Like I said, dumb reason, but I've heard great things about the WPM system. Any comments or suggestions are greatly appreciated.
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12-08-2002 | 05:26 PM
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I just addded Imcos' full hydraulic system to my 259 Convincor. Unfortunetly, I haven't been able to test it out yet due to the weather here in the North East. Winter sucks!! Anyway, the system installed easily without any problems.
12-08-2002 | 08:08 PM
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WPM Hydraulic Steering
Added a full system to a Baja Outlaw 24, handling improved 100%. I intened to install a Single ram tie-in, found a full WPM system here on OSO for $1200-00 complete. Probably the best money I have spent on this boat. WPM was incredibly helpful, sent me all the info needed for a self install, plus they talked me through every question I had. All the systems I have seen all seem even in quality of construction.
Now I need to find a bigger motor so I can enjoy this boating addiction even more
John
Now I need to find a bigger motor so I can enjoy this boating addiction even more
John
12-09-2002 | 08:15 AM
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Powerboatin, CP Performance sells them. when I bought mine there were several places that sell them.
I installed WPM single last winter and I love it. I wish I would have done it long ago. I think the cost was about $1400. A friend installed a double and his is hard to steer at idle, probably because the pump can't provide enough fluid at idle for 2. It adapts to the power steering cylinder and runs off of your power steering pump.
Ric232, The single tie in works great and if you need to add the second later you can just add it the first one, but I would probably go full hydraulic at that time.
Also, a friend of mine has IMCO and has some rust on the bolts, but I haven't seen any on the WPM of mine or my other friend, that has WPM, but all that I have seen are good quality and will make it safe.
It is a pretty easy install, but I probably measured for 2 hours before I drilled any holes, didn't want to screew it up.
I installed WPM single last winter and I love it. I wish I would have done it long ago. I think the cost was about $1400. A friend installed a double and his is hard to steer at idle, probably because the pump can't provide enough fluid at idle for 2. It adapts to the power steering cylinder and runs off of your power steering pump.
Ric232, The single tie in works great and if you need to add the second later you can just add it the first one, but I would probably go full hydraulic at that time.
Also, a friend of mine has IMCO and has some rust on the bolts, but I haven't seen any on the WPM of mine or my other friend, that has WPM, but all that I have seen are good quality and will make it safe.
It is a pretty easy install, but I probably measured for 2 hours before I drilled any holes, didn't want to screew it up.
12-09-2002 | 05:24 PM
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I cannot deny the improvement hydraulic steering probably gives over stock. Seems obvious. Hydraulic systems are better engineered to minimize stress on the gimbal ring and to keep control of the outdrive directly. Can see the safety connection with a single drive application for sure.
I am contemplating installing this setup on my twin engine application. Problem is, I cannot see any overt saftey problem with a failure of my stock system. Seems the counter rotating props would keep me going straight. Could maybe see how steering loss may be an issue corning hard, but not sure. What is the experience from the knowledge base on OSO? I've had steering failure on duoprop single engine applications and just went straight. Got home using my trim tabs like allerons (sp?).
Help me understand better,
BT
I am contemplating installing this setup on my twin engine application. Problem is, I cannot see any overt saftey problem with a failure of my stock system. Seems the counter rotating props would keep me going straight. Could maybe see how steering loss may be an issue corning hard, but not sure. What is the experience from the knowledge base on OSO? I've had steering failure on duoprop single engine applications and just went straight. Got home using my trim tabs like allerons (sp?).
Help me understand better,
BT
