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F-2 Speedy 03-26-2025 08:16 PM

I think your wording is confusing, a 1/4 of a quart oil leaking out of the seal over a weekend......... because the oil level should be way below the pan rail seal area

Steel Outlawed 03-26-2025 08:25 PM


Originally Posted by F-2 Speedy (Post 4923011)
I think your wording is confusing, a 1/4 of a quart oil leaking out of the seal over a weekend......... because the oil level should be way below the pan rail seal area

The loss of oil is while the boat is running over the weekend time. Not while sitting for the weekend.

TeamSaris 03-27-2025 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer (Post 4922998)
I just replaced both of my front seals because they leaked although not quite as bad as OP is claiming. I wish I knew to leave the timing covers loose for better centering. I have GEN V blocks and I bought Milodon aluminum timing chain covers. I had trouble holding the engine while I torque the harmonic balancer bolt. What do you guys do to keep the engine from rolling over while you torque the bolt? I have to redo the bolt install because I found out that its a good idea to apply a little RTV to the washer and the bolt to help ensure they don't leak.

Its actually in the instructions that come with the Mildon pans about keeping it loose.
100% on rtv under the washer, oil will migrate out through the keyway.
Typically we are doing this not in the boat, but when weve had to a strap wrench around the balancer works amongst other things.

PQ290Enticer 03-27-2025 08:22 AM


Originally Posted by TeamSaris (Post 4923040)
Its actually in the instructions that come with the Mildon pans about keeping it loose.
100% on rtv under the washer, oil will migrate out through the keyway.
Typically we are doing this not in the boat, but when weve had to a strap wrench around the balancer works amongst other things.

I think (hope) my problem was the old balancers had corrosion on them where the seals ride. I "assume" my engine guy followed the instructions during assembly as far as leaving the cover loose while installing the balancer. I will pick up a strap wrench and give that a try. Thanks for your help.

Diamond Dave 03-27-2025 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by Steel Outlawed (Post 4923002)

I mainly was asking since the builder won’t take my calls or texts. Maybe I’m thinking wrong (I don’t believe so) that the engine builder would step up and take care of the cost to fix them.

If you are getting garbage service from this guy, given him ample time to respond and he doesn't have enough respect for you to call you back why would you not warn others? Just curious.

PQ290Enticer 03-27-2025 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4923047)
If you are getting garbage service from this guy, given him ample time to respond and he doesn't have enough respect for you to call you back why would you not warn others? Just curious.

Long shot but is the guy on vacation :D
If he is close to you drop by.
I don't think any engine builder would pay for someone else to do the repair however they might reimburse you for the seals. The problem with "warranty" stuff for boat engines is, and I'm assuming here, that you didn't bring your boat to him so he could pull the engines, rebuild them, and reinstall them? So if you did want a "warranty repair" its reasonable for him to ask you to remove the engines again and drop them off.

Steel Outlawed 03-27-2025 10:50 AM

Those are all good points. There are a few problems. Last year when he had the engines for the re-builds. I dropped them off Thanksgiving weekend and he said he would have them back in middle to late February. Many things came up on his end and I finally was able to pick them up the first week of May. So there was no way I was taking them back to him. The second problem is, he is more than 700 miles from me, and 2 trips would have cost more than the repairs did. It's funny how he took many calls from me and tried to help. But as soon as I sent him pictures of the seals I haven't heard from him since.

I guess he could be on vacation, but I've texted him with the reason I was texting. A simple I'm on vacation and will get call when I get back would be nice.

Eventually I will probably warn others, but right now I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. Hoping maybe he will step up, at least call me back and tell me he's not going to take care of it.

Tartilla 03-30-2025 11:37 PM


Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer (Post 4923042)
I think (hope) my problem was the old balancers had corrosion on them where the seals ride. I "assume" my engine guy followed the instructions during assembly as far as leaving the cover loose while installing the balancer. I will pick up a strap wrench and give that a try. Thanks for your help.

The little details matter. You can also get a little chromed 'seal saver', that fits over the balancer seal contact area. More designed for issues where the seal has cut a groove in the contact surface of the metal. So you don't need to replace the whole balancer.

Steel Outlawed 04-02-2025 05:10 AM


Originally Posted by Tartilla (Post 4923268)
The little details matter. You can also get a little chromed 'seal saver', that fits over the balancer seal contact area. More designed for issues where the seal has cut a groove in the contact surface of the metal. So you don't need to replace the whole balancer.

We used the seal savers for the repair along with new seals.

kornegle 04-02-2025 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by PQ290Enticer (Post 4923042)
I think (hope) my problem was the old balancers had corrosion on them where the seals ride. I "assume" my engine guy followed the instructions during assembly as far as leaving the cover loose while installing the balancer. I will pick up a strap wrench and give that a try. Thanks for your help.

I had a BBC drag engine leak at the rear main due to the reason you mentioned (mild corrosion or pitting on the crank). I had a machine shop polish the crank smooth in this area and it solved the leak at the rear main. Perhaps you can put the balancer in a lathe and polish the area that the seal rides on to eliminate the corrosion.


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