Lucas oils?
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- Additive “over-treat” — too much ZDDP can cause film flaking and spalling, actually increasing wear.
- Can increase deposit formation on pistons and rings.
- Raises ash content, which can lead to fouled plugs and pre-ignition in high-RPM engines.
1,200–1,600 ppm is the sweet spot for most high-performance flat tappet and marine big blocks.- 2,000+ ppm only makes sense for short-life racing oil (where engines are torn down frequently).
- 3,000 ppm is overkill unless it’s a specialized drag/nitro engine oil designed for very short runs.
Lucas Synthetic SAE 20W-50 motor oil (non-“Racing” / standard synthetic) has around 1,265 ppm zinc.
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- Additive “over-treat” — too much ZDDP can cause film flaking and spalling, actually increasing wear.
- Can increase deposit formation on pistons and rings.
- Raises ash content, which can lead to fouled plugs and pre-ignition in high-RPM engines.
1,200–1,600 ppm is the sweet spot for most high-performance flat tappet and marine big blocks.- 2,000+ ppm only makes sense for short-life racing oil (where engines are torn down frequently).
- 3,000 ppm is overkill unless it’s a specialized drag/nitro engine oil designed for very short runs.
Lucas Synthetic SAE 20W-50 motor oil (non-“Racing” / standard synthetic) has around 1,265 ppm zinc.
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- Additive “over-treat” — too much ZDDP can cause film flaking and spalling, actually increasing wear.
- Can increase deposit formation on pistons and rings.
- Raises ash content, which can lead to fouled plugs and pre-ignition in high-RPM engines.
1,200–1,600 ppm is the sweet spot for most high-performance flat tappet and marine big blocks.- 2,000+ ppm only makes sense for short-life racing oil (where engines are torn down frequently).
- 3,000 ppm is overkill unless it’s a specialized drag/nitro engine oil designed for very short runs.
Lucas Synthetic SAE 20W-50 motor oil (non-“Racing” / standard synthetic) has around 1,265 ppm zinc.
The largest issue for ZDDP (zinc) is the high levels of calcium (detergent) 3000ppm or higher. It washes away the zinc that is in the oil, trying to do its job. As Dan mentionend. 1200-1600 ppm zinc is optimal, and way better with a lowered calcium level to around 1000ppm.
800-900ppm zinc is a maintenace level zinc for already broken in FT cams. But it's also not enough for high pressure contact areas. Perf Marine BBC, almost every contact point is high pressure.
SP rated oils often have the reduced calcium, for direct injection engines. But you need an analysis info source to be confident your oil is doing what what you need.
Too much zinc...think thick paint...it will crack and chip off. Too brittle to flex. Same with concrete and metals.
Proper zinc levels will create more friction as it protects. Part of the process.
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Many dyno tests for different oil viscosities. Once oil is at temp (210f-220f) there is minimal hp difference from 'thin to thick' oils. If anything, thinner oils will reduce HP.
Perf Marine engines are a different animal. Often sitting at 85% max for very long periods of time.
Not all engines are the same for windage and oil management. A properly setup BBC will have minimal oil entrainment in the crank.
Perf Marine engines are a different animal. Often sitting at 85% max for very long periods of time.
Not all engines are the same for windage and oil management. A properly setup BBC will have minimal oil entrainment in the crank.
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https://bobistheoilguy.com/forums/th...7-1-5k.383225/
VR-1 20w50 1500mile oil analysis for a 2020 Harley.
Mentioned that the VR-1 conventional 20w50 was quiet on the top end, vs the synthetic was noisy...just like the Mobil 1.
Generally, using what you have available is the best COA...provided it meets your needs.
Kendall doesn't mention their curret SAE rating on their website. most info I've found for it is 10yrs or older. So no recent SAE package ratings...but have a look anyway.
VR-1 20w50 1500mile oil analysis for a 2020 Harley.
Mentioned that the VR-1 conventional 20w50 was quiet on the top end, vs the synthetic was noisy...just like the Mobil 1.
Generally, using what you have available is the best COA...provided it meets your needs.
Kendall doesn't mention their curret SAE rating on their website. most info I've found for it is 10yrs or older. So no recent SAE package ratings...but have a look anyway.




