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Old 05-30-2003 | 07:03 PM
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Ok ,what are the specs on a 900 sc ???? what would the HP be without the blower ???

On the eagle 4340 crank and rods, i've heard they are good past 1400 HP.... Now, that is cked and balanced of course.....

I/m trying to make a well rounded/ educated desision, I'm not an expert on the motor building subject, it seems everyone has alittle different idea on building the perfect motor...... and maybe the perfect motor is different for each person,.....

I quick senario on what i think is perfect for me,(keeping in mind that nothing is perfect.....)
i have a 350 hp dozer it weights 90,000lbs the diesel engine that is in the machine is very powerful, the motor i'm talking about is a cummins kt19, now in other applications this engine makes 1500 HP, but in my dozer only 350 ,at 350 HP the motor will last almost forever provided it is well maintained....

i'm looking on those lines for the big cube engine i want to build ...
somthing that willl last , cause sorry to say i have more fun boating than working on the motors lol
say a 572 built for say 580 to 600 hp NA low comp

now down the road if i want to go alittle faster then i could add
a blower, if i have a good foundation there shouldn't be a prob, maybe i'll have to change the cams with a blower but you get the basic idea...... sorry if this was to long
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Old 05-30-2003 | 08:25 PM
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I would not dream of building a 1100 hp motor much less a 1400
hp motor with eagle rods or crank !!!!!!
Man ,this is way off

you just need to say what you want to do and speed in what type boat ,how many cubic dollars you are willing to spend and we can go from there.
You have so many options its unreal ,,540,557,565,572,566,598,623,632, and on and on --
For HP you need carrilo or simular rods and sonny bryant billet crank ,,and dry sump oiling ,,get the idea ?? just advise
 
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Old 05-30-2003 | 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by bobby daniels
I would not dream of building a 1100 hp motor much less a 1400
hp motor with eagle rods or crank !!!!!!
Man ,this is way off

you just need to say what you want to do and speed in what type boat ,how many cubic dollars you are willing to spend and we can go from there.
You have so many options its unreal ,,540,557,565,572,566,598,623,632, and on and on --
For HP you need carrilo or simular rods and sonny bryant billet crank ,,and dry sump oiling ,,get the idea ?? just advise
I have no desire to build a 1100 or 1400 hp motors, my drives will not handle it,(trs bwtrannies) i'm looking to build a reliable big Cubic Inch motor with low comp ratio.... NA it should make Maybe
580 - 600+ HP (Maybe topping out at say 5200 - 5500 rpm's
top speed - with that HP prob won't be over 75mph
someday if i add a blower i would like to see 85 mph
I do not have a desire to go any faster with this boat or prob any boat for trhat matter. the boat i have is a sonic rs 33,
from what i understand it is on the heavy side and its a very good rough water boat, i love to go fast in the rough..... Thats my plan..... the big picture
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Old 05-30-2003 | 10:25 PM
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Look for or PM ken here on the board. he is a friend of mine and also boats on the Hudson. he has a 33 sonic with 454's and prochargers . the boat is fast as hell. some where in the 90's. all he is using is stock GM crate motors with some head work. low budget motors with great results.
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Old 05-31-2003 | 08:08 AM
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Cubic $$$ whatever it takes at this point,
Don't want to waste $$ on stuff i' don't need or will ever need.
(ie billet cranks ,super rods etc..)
thought i had a good package put together ,i will have my machine shop guy cking the tolerance's and assembling....

looks like the eagle crank and rods might not be right choice...
callies dragon slayer crank and rods ??? Better???

I was surprized to see that a 500 bulldog, is 540 ci and makes only 470 hp... but i'm sure its very reliable.. this is prob what i'm looking to do on a larger scale, i pretty sure i need close to 600
HP X 2 to hit 75 in this particular hull (26 * deep vee)

the drives are built to hold up to 750HP
trannies 850HP

SO blowing this engin in the future i prob won't want exceed much past 750HP or i'll be looking into more prob

sounds like 565 is the best combo for what i'm looking to do ???

I just want to thank everyone on here for all your help, the education i'm recieving from this board is invaluable... and i want everyone to know its well appreciated....

Thx again Gregg
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Old 05-31-2003 | 10:37 AM
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Old 05-31-2003 | 11:10 AM
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Originally posted by XCAV8
On the eagle 4340 crank and rods, i've heard they are good past 1400 HP.... Now, that is cked and balanced of course.....
It sure sounded like you were going to try to use these crank and rods for a big big power ,,guess I mis read !

A 565 is the best bang in my experance for the buck . merlin or dart b;ock for added strenght and insurance (((I know guys people even me get along with less but he wants BULLET PROOF,))) Luniti crank ,eagle rods ,j&e pistons, air flow reaserch heads good valves , nice roller cam ,whipple or procharger and a BULLET PROOF PROVEN COMBO**** pump gas and low boost
750 to 1000 hp depending on boost level,,,,N/A no blower 600 to
700 easy h.p. tough and proven
 
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Old 06-01-2003 | 02:30 PM
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Originally posted by Bigyellowcat
too bad you are so far away i have a set of motors you need to go for a ride with, they are in a boat similar to yours, 35 cafe (cig) . You have probably never felt a boat pull as hard as this boat does, he has around 7k each in them with warranty.

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Old 06-02-2003 | 08:27 AM
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