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bowtie89 06-19-2003 06:13 AM

bottom paint removal?
 
Well as of tomorrow I should be the owner of a 89 formula 206!!! :-) I told myself I wasn't going to buy a boat with bottom paint but, this boat came along and I couldn't pass it up!! the hull is white. My question is what is the best way for me to go about getting this paint off??. The hull is white!! Can this be salvaged or am I stuck with bottom paint??? Thanks

JON242 06-19-2003 09:06 AM

I removed the bottom paint from my 24' Formula. I used a product called Peel Away. You can buy it at Home Depot. They also make a marine version but it's the same stuff and costs a lot more. It's a messy job but worth the effort.

bowtie89 06-19-2003 01:33 PM

cool
 
Does it leave it smooth like the hull or will I have to polish??? Will I ever be able to make it look like the top???

puder 06-19-2003 01:51 PM

ifyou can remove it you will probably have to eventually sand hen wet sand then coumpound and wax to bring back that nice shiney smooth look

HyperBaja 06-19-2003 01:58 PM

Why are you removing it? I have not heard of a boat gaining speed when removing bottom paint.

mcollinstn 06-20-2003 10:00 AM

Be sure to test your stripping chemical on a small section of normally-unseen gelcoat to make sure the stripper doesn't soften the gelcoat. Most hardware store strippers DO soften the gelcoat, while some do not. Marine strippers do not.

Also protect your trailer or put the boat on chocks cause the stripper will play hell on your trailer also.

Get some flexible steel putty knives and hone the edges to a rounded point - thatr way you can get under the paint but not gouge the gel.

If your paint is giving you troubles or if it is hot outside, slather the stripper on, and then cover it with saran wrap, removing one piece at a time and working on that section. This allows the stripper to keep working on the other sections without evaporating off too fast.

If your bottom paint was properly applied, they scuffed the underlying gelcoat with 80 grit on a DA sander. You will have zillions of little round swirly marks on your gelcoat and the marks will have the color of bottom paint in them. You should expect to wetsand with 320 to get past the swirls if you require a perfect surface to look at.

Sorry for the not-so-good news...

If you plan to store your boat out of the water, you can IMRON the hull, but no paint will stay on properly under the waterline if you store it in the water.

HyperBaja 06-20-2003 11:20 AM


Originally posted by mcollinstn
If your bottom paint was properly applied, they scuffed the underlying gelcoat with 80 grit on a DA sander. You will have zillions of little round swirly marks on your gelcoat and the marks will have the color of bottom paint in them. You should expect to wetsand with 320 to get past the swirls if you require a perfect surface to look at.

So if we do the stripper, then 320 sand it, it will look fine?

ForrestC 06-20-2003 04:01 PM

Peel Away if left on too long can and will damage gelcoat. Ask me how I know! Removal of bottom paint is a real pain and time consuming. If you value your time and pain factor, consider having a professional do it for you. Even after you get the bulk of it off with a stripping product, there remains a thin film of bottom paint that must be sanded off. Stripper won't touch it. Also, since the bottom was sanded prior to the appplication of the first coat of bottom paint, once you are finished stripping and sanding, the gelcoat may be fairly thin. To acheive a near perfect finish, you may need to have the bottom re-gelcoated or sprayed with something like VC Performance Epoxy which is a very tough coating that's only availabe in white.

Best of luck!

cuda 06-20-2003 06:24 PM


Originally posted by HyperBaja
Why are you removing it? I have not heard of a boat gaining speed when removing bottom paint.
Two reasons:
1 Yes it is faster
2 It's butt ugly

There are several kinds of bottom paint.

I removed it off one of my boats by using a pressure washer with a sand blasting attachment. It came out a lot better than I thought, you just have to be careful on conves points not to get through the gel coat. Also, oven cleaner would remove this paint.

On the second boat, I got lazy and had it bead blasted off for $350. DON'T DO THIS! It was much rougher than the sand blast. In some spots it looked like it was shot with number 8 bird shot. I had to fair marine tex in and paint it. As a side note, the oven cleaner wouldn't touch this paint, it just made shiny bottom paint.

Luckily you are working on a Formula, and they have THICK gel coat, so you have something to work with.

Good luck and let us know what you try.

cuda 06-20-2003 06:32 PM

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This hull should be very similar to yours. It's and 81 F20SC. This is with the bottom paint.

muffman 06-20-2003 06:33 PM

I spent 32 hours on a 26ft boat. From fiberglass paint striper to wet sanding to buffing with Blue Magic metal polish . If your carefull and don't sand thru your gel coat nobody will ever know you had bottom paint on it in the first place. Be prepaired to do alot cussing and crying from the fumes. 8.5mph GPS after all this

cuda 06-20-2003 06:33 PM

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After sand blasting. If you look closely, you can see the gel coat under the bottom paint actually looks whiter than were there was no bp.

Notice all the sand around the boat. It took 550 pounds of sand.

cuda 06-20-2003 06:38 PM

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Bead blasted.:mad: :mad: :mad:

wetterthebetter 06-26-2003 07:23 PM

I removed mine and painted it with PPG Concept and picked up 10
Mph i proved it
Later all

Archie1 06-27-2003 05:43 PM

Try West Marine Paint Stripper. Then remove it after the paint softens with a pressure washer. Sure beats scraping and gouging the gel coat. It took a saturday to do our 26'.

bn 06-28-2003 06:41 AM

You might want to try one of these products:

http://www.ibacktonature.com/Pages/strippers.html

I was talking to them a few months ago when I found a boat with bottom paint on it that I wanted to buy. They said to roll it on, wait 24 hours and then hit it with a pressure washer and the bottom paint will come right off.

I think that BoatUS might sell these Back To Nature products too.

Playn 06-28-2003 09:59 PM

I'm using peel away right now. I'll post some pics of the progress (I was expecting more from the product)

wetterthebetter 06-29-2003 08:58 AM

The easiest way to do this is use 80 grit on a DA to remove all the paint to gel,then 180 the gel ,2 good coats of a quality 2 part primer then sand w/320 and apply your favorite paint mine is, PPG
Concept in this case.Idid all of this procedures in a 3 day weekend and was well worth it boat looks 100%better and picked up 10mph!!!!!And buy the way this is a vary dirty job.
Have fun and good luck
Later



P.S. to hell with all the wet sanding and buffing
And one more thing if anti-fouling makes a boat faster then Y dont i see any one in APBA Offshore runn Anti-fouling HUH??????

HyperBaja 06-29-2003 03:11 PM


Originally posted by wetterthebetter
The easiest way to do this is use 80 grit on a DA to remove all the paint to gel,then 180 the gel ,2 good coats of a quality 2 part primer then sand w/320 and apply your favorite paint mine is, PPG
Concept in this case.Idid all of this procedures in a 3 day weekend and was well worth it boat looks 100%better and picked up 10mph!!!!!And buy the way this is a vary dirty job.
Have fun and good luck
Later



P.S. to hell with all the wet sanding and buffing
And one more thing if anti-fouling makes a boat faster then Y dont i see any one in APBA Offshore runn Anti-fouling HUH??????

10MPH? That sounds a bit optimistic. The local F1 team goes so far as to even get under the boat before a race with a belt sander real quick.

open87 06-29-2003 07:48 PM

does anyone in your area do soda blasting.

wetterthebetter 06-30-2003 09:59 PM

was documented at my local marina a freind of mine owns done with GPS


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