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Old 08-28-2003 | 11:18 AM
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Wow, 513 horsepower from a 454 is really good! Those heads and camshaft must really work well with that high compression ratio.
If you can run 11.0:1 compression with 36 degrees total advance on premium pump gas without detonation that set up is great!
36 degrees advance says a lot about the good combustion chamber design in the heads and the domes on the pistons.
Thanks for sharing that with us!
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Old 08-28-2003 | 11:21 AM
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I ran the numbers and at 5500 rpms with a 1.5 gear ratio at 75mph with a 25P you have a 13% slip factor. Mathematically you are there. My 24 outlaw has an upgraded HP 500 in it and with a 23p reworked to a 24p at 5300 rpms it runs 73.5 on GPS. If your run more power your going to have to upgrade the drive and you should also add hydraulic steering. I am in the process of having my hull blueprinted and after this I'm all done. I know I will never be the fastest guy on the lake, there are more effecient hulls out there and with the same power will run 10mph faster.


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Old 08-28-2003 | 12:15 PM
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it is realy 10.6.1 on 93 octane
 
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Old 08-28-2003 | 12:29 PM
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and how close are the factory tacks
 
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Old 08-29-2003 | 08:44 AM
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I'd bet that if that engine was run on a dyno it would be making over 500 hp. I've done 468 engines with slightly less cam (flat-tappet) and slightly less compression (9.65:1) that dyno'd at a touch over 500 at 5400 rpm. If you don't believe it you can ask KAAMA. He was there at the dyno run. And it was at Tom Earhart's shop.
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Old 08-29-2003 | 10:40 AM
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Interesting thread! Personally, I think a 236*/244* hyd roller is a little too large for a 468" engine. I've got a 236*/244* in my 540's!!! I was actually going to put a slightly smaller cam in my 540's.

I'd be willing to bet that a smaller cam would give your engine more of a kick in the pants. You don't really want to go over 5600rpm's anyway with a hydraulic cam.
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Old 08-29-2003 | 11:36 AM
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I might agree, KAAMA, but I think it would be neat to see what it would spin on the dyno. Then change the cam to a shorter grind, and spin it again to compare results.
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Old 08-29-2003 | 11:57 AM
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The engine was ran on the dyno and it made 513hp, he states that in his update post. I would also agree with 24ftbaja that it needs a bit more cam or a slight profile change but would push the rpm range up and make the engine less reliable. 513hp out of a mild 468 is great power.
 
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Old 08-30-2003 | 09:08 AM
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I agree, and I would be happy enough with 513hp out of a 468 with a hyd. roller---that is very good! I'm sure the 11:1 comp ratio helps those numbers out quite a bit. I just wonder (for comparison) what kind of power the engine would make on the same dyno using a smaller cam------------but then of course that takes more time/$$$.

I would also be interested in knowing what RPM a 468" engine idles at in neutral and in gear with a cam that size (236*/244*). I would think it might be a little "snotty" for shifting and manuvering around the docks. But then I'm 45 years old now and I like a smoother idling engine these days---that's just me.
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Old 08-31-2003 | 07:28 AM
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KAAMA, it was good to see you in Grand Haven last night. Sorry I didn't get a chance to see you running the boat, but there's always today, if we're around Grand Haven. Oh, Barb just pointed out that I DID get to see your boat. As you blew past me on U.S.31 with that big turbo-powered Cummins diesel Dodge
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