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Merc manual says to remove the t fitting. However you can take the ball and spring apart to remove and use duct tape to tape up one side of the t fitting and use a funnel to pour a/f down the other side. Then when full, just put the ball and spring back together.

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Cityscope?

Looks like someone is trying to get their website to have a better page ranking on Google... :rolleyes:

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I still don't understand how Cityscope did his winterizing. :drink:

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its that time of the year again.....so ttt!!! :D

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IF I MAY ADD ONE MORE THING THAT I HAVE DONE. I TOOK TWO PIECES OF FOAM AND CUT THEM SO THE FIT IN TO THE EXHAUST PIPES THEN DRILLED A HOLE IN BOTH SO I CAN PUT A ROPE THROUGH THE MIDDLE(MAKES IT EASIER TO GET THEM OUT) THEN STUFF THEM IN THE PIPES TO KEEP MUD DIVERS OUT OF THE ENGINE. REMEMBER TO REMOVE. :drink:

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One thing that I have found really useful to do is to put a big flat sheet of styrofoam over my enging cover and under the cover - this keeps the engine cover from getting mildew all over it. Also, if you do suck water/antifreeze mixture through your engine it seems like it would be a good idea to just remove your thermostat before starting your boat so you can be sure that it is open - it only costs you a new thermostat gasket, then put it back when finished witerizing. How much antifreeze/water do you think you need to fill a BBC? I have been sucking through about 10 gallons and wonder if I am just wasting a lot of antifeeze.

ttt

Great post ?? about the fuel/water filter??
 

11. Changing the fuel filter/water separator now is also a good thing.

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Wouldn't that be better the change in the spring after running the first tank through?

What would you recommend for the e10? This is a thought that I have had here lately. I'm going to fill it up and add a good dose of stabil to it. i'll change the filter next year after the first tank to see if there is anything in it.

I understand what happens with it, my question is how do we try and keep that from happening? Is the same old thinking of filling it all the way up to try and curb the moisture still hold true? Anthony

Good stuff!
Thanks

I read several conflicting philosophies (articles) in various publications over the past year regarding winter storage of fuel tanks containing E-10 fuel. Go practically empty to reduce the amount of fuel to be contaminated due to condensation on fuel cell walls, and phase separation (ethanol octane separating from the fuel itself due to aging after 30 days) then fill up as mentioned above...........OR follow the full tank philosphy minimizing condensation, and pickle the fuel with Stabilizer and Startron to reduce phase seperation. Then add Pri-G fuel rejuvenator in the spring.

Personally I'm taking the practically empty approach with pickled fuel, then fill up with fresh gas in the spring changing separators frequently at the start until I see nice clean fuel poured from the separator into a glass container and allowed to set for a few minutes.

Regardless of which approach you take, I suggest next spring you change the fuel separators during the first 2-4 weekends of use to be sure.

Might also add to the a list some cross
refrenced fuel filters for the 496HO

Applicable fuel filters
Wix 33226 Short filter
Wix 33225 Long filter

Yamaha water seperating fuel filter "MAR-FUELFIL-TR":
10 micron
90 GPH
50hrs/6mos

Better filtration and twice the water capacity of the stock Merc unit. It is also twice the length.

ttt

I just winterized this weekend and I have taken the near empty approach. I added Sta-bil to keep the remaining gas as fresh as possible. I was fortunate enough to have able to get ethanol free gas all summer. The station that I was filling up at, has just changed over to E10. :mad:

ttt

In order to need the fogging how long would the boat need to sit without running?

Ditto on this statement with the ethenol in the fuel today I would want it as empty as I could get it to avoid moisture condensating in the tank as well as the octane dropping for those of us that have the boat sit almost 6 months the octane level drops substantially even using Stabil. The rest of it is pretty thorough though although changing the oil twice once in fall and once in spring again seems pretty wasteful due to the fact it's fresh oil.

Being your in Buffalo I'm guessing your winter is as long as mine so your looking at a minimum of 5 months I would fog it just to avoid condensation on the valvetrain as well as cylinder walls...For 2 minutes of spinning off the filter and pouring a little 2 cycle in it when you are doing your final shutdown it's piece of mind..

The full way , or the fools way ? use this thread for examples of what not to do. :lolhit::lolhit:

Playing with faces..:coolcowboy::party-smiley-004::kiss::bigbird::hitit::eek::drink::evilb::angr y-smiley-038::bsflag::lolhit::evilb:

great thread. One new step to me. I usually run engine, drain block, run antifreeze then fog and done. You are saying that now it is a good idea to run engine, drain block, run antifreeze, fog, then drain manifolds again

What about the brake rotors?? (to stop the rust)

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...ml#post3516259


P.S. Thanks for a great list, very handy!

The hydraulic lifters should bleed down thus relieving the valve springs...Correct???

454 Mag MPI - is it ok to do the fogging oil (2 stroke oil I guess) in the fuel filter method? No problems with injectors, etc?

Thanks.

Ttt

Thought I would add this little bit of info. Use a shop vac to suck any water out of your inter cooler system. Stick the hose end right on the dump fitting and let her suck until dry.

In the serloc manual i have for my 496 mag HO it says to close fuel supply , disconnect fuel pump and boost pump, add 2oz of 2 cycle oil to fuel filter and run till fuel runs out. Im confused becasuse ive read in this thread to shut motor off when i start to see smoke. So does anyone know the proper way? My problem is that i want to run anti-freeze mix thru the muffs out of a 5 gallon jug, so how can i time it to where it either starts to smoke or runs out of fuel before i use up the antifreeze in the jug. im stressing over this and i refuse to bring it somewhere to have it done because i dont like people wrenching on my stuff. Is there a way to fill the raw water side with anti-freeze mix without running it thru the muffs?

Back in Kentucky my dad put a fitting in one of the water lines. Then used a bilge pump dropped in a bucket of antifreeze to fill the block. You can see it run out the exhaust.

I don't think the lifters bleed down far enough to completely reseat the valve. I thought the hydraulic piston just takes up the last 0.05 or 0.1??? Someone will correct me if this isn't right.

Also, the valve springs are under a fair amount of compression even when the valve is seated.

I think the best you can do is bar the engine over a half turn or so every month. Let's see, four months of winter = two complete revolutions or one full valve cycle...

Empty Fuel Tank
 

I talked with Bob Teague about the fuel level issue and He stated that it's better to have your tank or tanks as low as possible and add stabalizer do to the quality of the gasoline that we have Today.I change my impellers in the spring so there not sitting all winter with the rubber vanes bent up in the pump housing.I also turn over my engines by hand about once a month to distribute the valve spring pressures.I put a moisture absorber in my engine compartment.I spray my shift boots,Exhaust bellows with rubber conditioner and then put the drives in the down position. have 500 efi's with 318 hours and have no issues as of yet.Can't wait till Summer..Having my ride custom painted by Mitcher T in Feb

Hate to say this guys but its this time of year again for us northerners to start thinking about this. ttt

Put one away already. Sad.

Thinking, but not doing!!!YET!

It's a sad time of year :(

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Still holding off....... A few more weeks..... It is getting colder here at night. We had a really great summer here in Michigan though .............

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Great write up. Very complete.

is there a refined/up-dated list with all of the additions/corrections?