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Old 09-01-2023 | 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by KAAMA
Smitty/Articf, you and Rookie are speaking about a 454cid engine---right? With an engine the size of a 454cid, then I would greatly expect that a dual-plane intake manifold such as the RPM Air-Gap dual-plane to perform much better over a single plane in most cases, but NOT in every case.

Back when I bought my used 32' Active Thunder, the original owner dumped a ton of money in the engines. They were 454cid bored .030" over to 461cid and the blocks were "bore notched" so as to un-shroud the valves on a smaller BBC cylinder bore size. These 461cid engines had small solid/mechanical roller cams with Merlin cast iron Oval port heads that had 2.19"/1.88" valves with bowl porting and short side radius work and the same Dart 4150 flange intake manifolds that I ended up using on my 565cid engines.

Anyway, those little 454's (461") made about 619hp @5500-5700rpm and this is with Stellings full length tubular headers installed on the engines in the boat---and I rode in that boat that way before I even knew I was going to buy it---and it was a real runner and I am thinking the Stellings tubular dry exhaust system was maybe why it could run well enough to install single plane intakes (Dart) on those engines back during that time

I also tend to believe that the more CID you have with the Big Block Chevy then the less reliant it is for a dual-plane intake manifold---at least that is how I used to think until I read the Prestige Motorsports article by Jeff Honeycutt with all the dyno testing results---really has me second guessing myself about those dual-plane intake manifolds---especially on a 582cid engine where Honeycutt in Test #1 stated:---- "We don't want to spoil it, but it was the highest output of any of the tests"-----= so now I am back to thinking a dual-plane intake may actually work on a 565cid engine turning only 5600rpm and lower marine application engine , especially on a 582" that they were conducting dyno tests on during that time..

I may have to end up laying down the SMACK for the Air-Gap dual-plane and do my own dyno test compared to the Weiand Track Warrior manifold which i have already bought---which in the test by Prestige looks to have a slight edge over even the Victor Jr. as Honeycutt comments in his article in Test #5----"We've got to say that Weiand's Track Warrior single-plane intake manifold was the surprise of the test"---- .These weren't decisions that I was expecting this time around, but the curiosity is really rattling me.
No, dynoed another 509 that had terrible tq, mediocre hp with weiand team G open plenum, swittched to perfromer rpm, gained tq, hp EVERYWHERE.
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Old 09-01-2023 | 04:41 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
How about in boat comparison tests ?
Like it sounds Rookie might embark on.
Sometimes the dyno tells one side of the story.
Rooki can clarify but he LOST 4 mph when he put the Weiand Team Gs in his boat
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Old 09-01-2023 | 05:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SB
How about in boat comparison tests ?
Like it sounds Rookie might embark on.
Sometimes the dyno tells one side of the story.
Well, maybe a boat would "feel" better somehow for you to drive with the light blue tq line and red hp line (Weiand team G) but ILL take the dark blue tq line and light green hp line any day (performer RPM dual plane)

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