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The thing he's (blue thunder) not being real specific about are the heads because the DD has several different head and head porting configurations that go into the equation. With the differing levels of head porting that are on the DD it can make a big difference on the power outcome of the engine in question. Just my .02
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I'm coming up with 472@5500rpm for horsepower, peak torque of 531@3500 if the intake centerline is 107 degrees. if I advance that 4 degrees the horsepower drops to 456@5500 and torque goes up to 534@3500. let me know what your cam card says for intake centerline angle. I'd really like to see the compression ratio up around 9:1, maybe a little more than that. Also, I'm assuming this is a hydraulic flat-tappet cam.
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Originally posted by KAAMA The thing he's (blue thunder) not being real specific about are the heads because the DD has several different head and head porting configurations that go into the equation. With the differing levels of head porting that are on the DD it can make a big difference on the power outcome of the engine in question. Just my .02 Dyno, I hope you are right... that would be a nice boost in performance year over year. Dave |
I guess we were typing at the same time crazy. The Intake CL straight up is 107* The LSA is 111. The cam is comp. CBX4 270H-11 Yes on flat tappet cam. 9:1 or better is on next winters to do list.... ;) Due to cast assemblies I am only concerned with the torque curve below about 5200rpm. My hp will be peaking over that, but I want the torque falling right at 5000rpm. What selection did you make for heads?
Dave |
Crazyhorse,
Here is the flow data on those heads if you want to plug in the exact numbers to a DD .flw file. http://www.edelbrock.com/automotive/head_flowdata.html Bob |
Here it is, rpm, horsepower, torque;
2000 194 510 2500 249 523 3000 301 526 3500 354 531 4000 401 526 4500 442 516 5000 469 493 5500 470 449 6000 456 399 With the airflow numbers plugged in; 2000 193 507 2500 247 519 3000 298 521 3500 348 523 4000 392 515 4500 428 499 5000 445 467 5500 433 413 6000 408 357 If I were a betting man, and we were going to run the engine on the dyno, I'd probably guess that the second set would be close, but I've lost this bet with KAAMA before. |
Looks like a good, flat torque curve for a marine application. What do you guys think? Torque drops off right about where I want it to as well. I'll play with the dd2000 some and see if I can get the same numbers as you crazy.
What rpm would you guys prop this boat to, I was planning for 5100-5200rpm, but maybe a little lower would be better. Thanks for the help, Dave |
Crazyhorse,
Can someone run mine for me??? Here it is Displacement: 502 Heads: oval port merlin's 2.19/1.88 Carb: 850cfm Holley Intake: Holley, Single Plane Strip Dominator pistons: Stock GM Comp Ratio: 8:5-1 I believe Cam (Comp Cams XS282S "Solid flat tappet"): Gross Lift 590/598, dur 282/290 @.015, dur 244/252 @ .050 valve timing @.015 IVO 35 IVC 67 EVO 79 EVC 31 Lobe separation 110* Cam ground with 4*advance and installed straight up. thunderbolt IV Ignition Stainless marine exhaust I am curious what I am making. My guess is 525 - 550?? |
Here is what I came up with Panther. Had to take a guess on the airflow of the heads. Used small tube headers as the exhaust. Crazyhorse can do better I'm sure. Just practicing.... Seems my numbers are low :confused:
RPM HP Torque 2000 102 267 2500 152 219 3000 193 338 3500 252 379 4000 318 417 4500 382 446 5000 426 447 5500 450 429 6000 451 395 6500 443 358 I'll be curious to see what crazyhorse gets Dave |
Here's the results I get with small-tubes/no mufflers, single-plane intake, seat-to-seat cam timing(this is a solid-lifter flat-tappet grind with .016 lash, that's why the cam timing figures are at .015 lift),rpm, hp, tq,
2000 183 481 2500 241 506 3000 300 525 3500 368 552 4000 432 567 4500 486 567* 5000 522 548 5500 530*506 6000 517 452 6500 486 393 Making the large tube/with mufflers selection; 2000 172 452 2500 228 479 3000 286 500 3500 353 529 4000 416 547 4500 470 548* 5000 506 531 5500 513*490 6000 499 437 6500 464 374 Either way it looks like a nice running motor. |
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