Hynautic steering by Teleflex???
 

I was on the "other" site and some people were talking about a hydraulic helm by teleflex whats the story with them? are they better than the stock cable crap most people have? Could you upgrade an existing cable setup with this and be better off? When steering fails what usually breaks? the cables? Hey my boats a 93 and the steering needs some help but don't have the scratch to add a full hydraulic set up would this fit the bill??? I see that they call it SeaStar now but you can buy it for $750....

I had the Helm unit fail on mine.Lost all steering coming into PIB after runninh hard in 4-5s !!....No question after that...I will NEVER be without full Hyd. again !!!

are you talking about this set-up failing???

"Hynautic by Teleflex"? Didn't know that Hynautic was associated with teleflex.
Most of the teleflex stuff is for OB.
Most hynautic is for OB or inboard. I did have a Hynautic system (non power assisted) on my 38 Scarab. Very good quality but none of the chrome, polished stuff you see on Latham etc.
Their external cylinders were very strong, 7/8" S/S rod if I remember correctly. Again not shiney but they would be my first choice for external hydraulic.
I later changed out the manual to a power assist Charlyn unit. Worked great.
Gary

I would add a hydraulic ram using your existing cable setup. It will eliminate most of the slop that is present in the steering mechanism. The only slop that will remain will be in the cable and helm.

My bad, looks like Teleflex, Morse, and Hynautic are all one company now.
BTW, dyno, are you planning on external or internal hydraulic steering? What's the application? Single or twin bravo?
Gary

Twin Bravo....If I can get away with an internal set-up that would fill my needs much cheaper I'd go that route..

Gary-I think they merged about 2 years ago.

Dyno-It'll still cost you a couple of k, but there is a twin ram imco setup for sale on the board. I spent 4k for my single drive twin ram setup and this one was significatly less.

No Dyno....I had the Add on System,Like Cord mentioned.I dont know about the Hynautic...Just DONT do the Add On !!!!....PM Allen4 about Xs systems...
After my failure & near VERY bad experience with Add on systems I am VERY nervous about anything but FULL Hyd.....

Cord the seastar is $750 it replaces the cables and helm only you need to buy the lines also looks like another $150

So nobody has told me what fails when a stock set-up breaks?????

Dont bother with the internal. Not much advantage. With the extremely weak gimbal and ring on the bravo, external is the only way to go.
I also agree with birddog, go full hydraulic. Especially if your current cable setup is worn.
As for what fails, cables helm, connections, etc all loosen up. Then there's the upper swivel pin/gimbal ring.
Gary

So I have to spend 4k to do it right.....Bummer!guess I'll cheat death again this summer.

I told you what failed on mine...Helm unit....stripped the gears..also..what Gary said

Sooo....The Hynautic system has no external rams ?
If so...Dont waste your grand..Get the real deal !!

Dyno-just how fast are you running? I really don't think you are fast enough to justify a full hydraulic system.

well cord that depends on who you talk to, I say I'm too slow my wife says I'm too fast! 75......

Gary I see on other posts that you have built your own set-up on several occasions...you need to make a set of prints and sell them with the part #'s to build one I'd pay for the the advice...

I assume the hydraulic you're referring to is an internal, non-power assisted system.
Birddog, hynautic does make an external ram, called K-5. They've been around a long time and as I stated above, are very strong.
Dyno, if you're going manual, buy a hynautic helm made for the K-5 or similar sized rams. I think I've even got my old one lying in the basement. Find a couple of used K-5 rams (used price is typically $100-125 each) rebuild them, buy a reservior/pressure regulator, and hoses. You can have a twin ram, manual, external hydraulic setup for about the same money.
Gary

Gary want to sell that helm? where can I buy used rams?

I think there is more to it than just high speed....Dyno boats on the Great lakes...Alot of rough water & air time puts alot of stress on components no ?

Thanks for clearing that up for me Gary...Anybody have a pic of these systems ? Sounds like a great deal.

I actually may be using the helm, so I'm going to hang onto it. The same unit is used for twin ram OB and large IB applications.
As for the rams, I run across them frequently. I think I know where a couple are near Peoria, but I wouldn't buy them from the guy without seeing them first. You might want to check with Doller or Bam in FL. I think the K-5s were the first external ram available so they're common. And a rebuild kit was only about $10. BTW they're a plated brass cylinder with square encaps, held together by 4 long bolts. The ram itself is S/S, but the 7/8" diameter means heim joints are a little hard to find.
The reservior/regulators are available through West marine, etc for a little over $100 if I remember.
Gary

this is great stuff! Thats why I LOVE this board!!!Gary can you post some pics of yours?

BTW, reservior/pressure valve on Ebay. Just check to see its the high pressure (1000psi)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2467537798

"Hynautic" Is Gone!
 

The Hynautic Steering Company does not exist anymore. Teleflex Marine is a very large Canadian Co. that bought out the Hynautic name & inventory and dissolved them. They do not have parts or anything available for them from the factory. The marine distributors have sold off their remaining inventory & it will be replaced with Teleflex systems and parts only. I have a new Hynautic H-51 helm available(requires a reservalve tank) & a good used twin outboard, twin cylinder, Teleflex helm available for sale, if anyone has the need. Thanks, Ed [email protected]

Ed
What about cylinder rebuild kits? Are they still available for the K-5s?

Ed what do you want for the package? I'll still need a tank and lines and make some mounting plates for the transome and drives....

So whats the deal. Can a guy still get a teleflex set up new for a Bravo 1 dual ram, external?

Tres Martin has MM rams 4-sale......might help

I know this thread is old but Gary if you are still around I have a few questions about the hynautic system

Thanks

Wow is this ever an old thread. I'm still around under a new name. I'll try to answer questions if my mind is still clear enough to remember stoff from 04.
Gary

I run a Hynautic K5-B system on my boat, howevere just the rams. I added a charlynn helm to the tune of 145 CC's and it works very well, and it is as beefy as any other top brand name system out there, The best part is I did a full hydrualic twin ram set up for less than $ 1,000.00 buck and it works flawlessly


Bryan

Good to hear Gary
Ok so hear is the deal..I know very little about Hyd steering but I bought an older boat with Hynautic..I can see that it is Full hydraulic to the helm and it has the reservoir with sight glass and pressure gauge...Now one of my questions are...Since it has been sitting for a year hooked up and doesn't want to move what should I do first ?..How do I fill the reservoir with fluid and what fluid do I use ? I have read that this system is fairly hard to turn unless your moving but it feels stuck..I don't want to break anything by forcing it...Thanks for any info you have.

Love to hear some details on that project!

Do you use a helm pump or does you charlynn run off of your powersteering pump?

I bought some Marine Machine rams off of ebay and haven't decided wether I was going to a hydraulic helm or a hynautic helm pump, I have friends that run both. I actually like my friends steering that uses the hynautic helm pump. I think it is 2.4 cu/in per revolution. Or a Capilano helm pump.

These would have helped someone put together a nice system, rather inexpensively.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mayfa...QQcmdZViewItem

It is run off of my Power steering pump...I sugest full power, the capillano is great for outboards but a little stiff for the use of I/O applications

Bryan

I'm assuming this is not power assisted.
The resrvior is filled by unscrewing the plug with the shrader valve (air fitting) in it. You need to presurize the system in order to get it to initially get fluid in there. 15-20psi should do it.
The fluid I used was from Hynautic. I'm guessing someone must still stock it or a replacement.
If it's stuck, find out why. Are the drives frozen, the rams, the helm unit.
Disconnect stuff and find out what's not moving. Then clean, replace, or rebuild the problem parts.

do you have the Charlynn part #

Correct not power assist

I am going to tear into this week some time...Thanks for the info..Do you know who might carry parts ?

No idea who has parts.
Search the internet. There are quite a few of those setups on inbord cruisers, so I assume they're still available.