Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
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Re: Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
Originally Posted by PatriYacht
There are other factors to look at. What is the size of the motor? Aftermarket or ported heads? In a 454, that cam is almost guaranteed to revert. With a set of wild heads on a 502 it will revert with the silent choise risers.
The cam is somewhere around 598in/615ex lift.
I bought the boat already setup like this and that's all I know about the cam until I pull it out and get numbers.
I want stroke it out to 540 and use the same heads with MAYBE 741 camshaft.
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Re: Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
502s, GM rect port heads, CMI elbow tops, silent choice, 741 cam, B&M blowers, no reversion..
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Re: Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
502 , Brodix bb2plus ported heads, 741 crane on 114 l/s, EMI with ss risers and silent choice and procharger no reversion.
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Bigger engines will tolerate bigger cams and revert less. A 540 with those parts may work ok. Keep your idle up. If you spend too much time at 6-700 rpm, that could give you a problem. But don't be surprised if it happens. My 540's with the next size larger cam ( Crane 651) and AFR cnc heads reverted like crazy. If I loosened the tailpipe- manifold connection, water poured out in a steady stream. And my tailpipes didn't dump the water until after the transom.
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Re: Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
Some (not all) of the posters of the 741 not experiencing reversion are forced induction applications. The comparison is not apples to apples with N/A and should be addressed in cam selection. In a N/A motor the probability of reversion is significantly higher than forced due to the differences in the pressure differentials during the portion of the overlap period ATDC. Exhaust reversion (not intake reversion) occurs after the piston reaches TDC (beginning of intake cycle) and is descending in the bore, reducing pressure across the piston crown, at a time when both intake and exhaust valves are open. At low RPM (N/A) the pressure differential is:
Intake column> combustion chamber< exhaust tract
Allowing both exhaust gas and water back into the combustion chamber
As RPM increases the inertia of the intake and exhaust columns increase so:
Intake column> combustion chamber> exhaust tract
Negating exhaust reversion.
At low RPM in forced induction applications:
Intake column> combustion chamber> exhaust tract
The intake column is pressurized increasing the fill rate/pressure of the combustion chamber (blow through) and effectively restricting the exhaust charge/water from reverting past the exhaust valve back into the combustion chamber.
A cam profile that shows no sign of reversion in a forced induction application will have a much higher probability of exhaust reversion in an N/A application.
Bob
Intake column> combustion chamber< exhaust tract
Allowing both exhaust gas and water back into the combustion chamber
As RPM increases the inertia of the intake and exhaust columns increase so:
Intake column> combustion chamber> exhaust tract
Negating exhaust reversion.
At low RPM in forced induction applications:
Intake column> combustion chamber> exhaust tract
The intake column is pressurized increasing the fill rate/pressure of the combustion chamber (blow through) and effectively restricting the exhaust charge/water from reverting past the exhaust valve back into the combustion chamber.
A cam profile that shows no sign of reversion in a forced induction application will have a much higher probability of exhaust reversion in an N/A application.
Bob
Last edited by rmbuilder; 10-27-2004 at 12:07 PM.
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Re: Does a Crane"741" Cam With Silent Choice Cause Water Reversion?
US1 Fountain,
Not necessarily. With a roots type supercharger for example, even at very slight throttle openings when the blower is technically not "making boost" the rotation of the rotors generates enough energy in the intake column to show an increase in the VE of the engine which counters the tendency to revert.
Bob
Not necessarily. With a roots type supercharger for example, even at very slight throttle openings when the blower is technically not "making boost" the rotation of the rotors generates enough energy in the intake column to show an increase in the VE of the engine which counters the tendency to revert.
Bob