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SSComp 01-14-2005 12:51 PM

Air actuated silent choice
 
I'm changing from electric to Pnuematic silent choice. Who makes the expolsion proof pumps (compressors). Frankly there does not look like much difference between the high dollar marine one and the cheap tire inflator that you can buy at Walmart.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

dyno 01-14-2005 02:10 PM

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Dude what happened to the switchable muffflers?

Dave M 01-14-2005 02:28 PM

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Why are you changing? I just removed my Merc silent choice because it was a PIA. My friend has Corsa with the electric selonoids and never a problem.

SSComp 01-14-2005 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dyno
Dude what happened to the switchable muffflers?

Caught me....Final prototypes are done and tested. Production on the way but need a compressor.

US1 Fountain 01-14-2005 05:40 PM

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The cheapy should work as far as the compressor itself, not accounting for the spark factor. Course could alway mount it elsewhere, but you will need to install a pressure relief valve, and a solenoid to vent the lines for switching.

Ed 01-14-2005 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by bajalion
I'm changing from electric to Pnuematic silent choice. Who makes the expolsion proof pumps (compressors). Frankly there does not look like much difference between the high dollar marine one and the cheap tire inflator that you can buy at Walmart.

Any input would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Go to your local magazine rack & pick up a copy of "Truck'n" Magazine. All the truck/car suspensions with air bag systems use a full aray of different size compressors. The biggest name in air pumps is "Aim Industries" for air suspensions. They are by far the cheapest source. They are the same pumps used on Merc Silent Choice, Corsa, etc... Hope this helps. Ed

Edward R. Cozzi 01-14-2005 06:41 PM

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Usually they get switched FROM the air to the Corsa-style electric.
Good luck on the prototype.

offshoredrillin 01-14-2005 07:02 PM

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Had electric on my donzi as well, never a problem.

JPD Motorsports 01-14-2005 07:36 PM

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look at the ones from viar, have had trouble with the ones from aim on truck apps. Parker also makes a compressor as well.

SSComp 01-14-2005 07:54 PM

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Who make the electric style ones? Where did you get them?

Thanks.

SSComp 01-14-2005 08:01 PM

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BTW, Here they are after one season....a little dirty but they cleaned right up.

pullmytrigger 01-14-2005 09:20 PM

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Im ditching my air activated Merc silent choice this year too (twin set up)........Ive probably spent more time effing with that system than evrything else combined.....works one weekend then not the next :mad: ........I do work with pneumatics at work and theres one thing you can always bank on........LEAKS!!!!!........in industry its kind of ok.......in a boat..........NOT OK!!!!!!!............"hey doug, your boat is really quiet"....."yeah I know......never mind" :rolleyes: .......doug

offshoredrillin 01-14-2005 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bajalion
Who make the eclectric style ones? Where did you get them?

Thanks.

Mine were Corsa and the complete kit was about a grand for one motor, comlplete with wiring harness. got them online but I cant remeber the name of the place. Do a google search on them and it should come up.

rjcardinal 01-15-2005 07:57 AM

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I have a complete deluxe pnumatic kit from CMI that I never used. I adapted my Corsa solinoids to work with the CMI diverters. It includes the pump relief valve and wiring harness I think. Think I paid around $400 for the kit but I will let it go for less. Ill have to dig for it so let me know if you want it.

Ron

SSComp 01-15-2005 10:03 AM

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Thanks guys. By what you said I'd be interested in the solenoid style. Anyone know what type and make they are?

Edward R. Cozzi 01-15-2005 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bajalion
Thanks guys. By what you said I'd be interested in the solenoid style. Anyone know what type and make they are?

Corsa. They have been called "Captain's Call" and "Quik-Quiet". I see them on boats I survey all the time. Seem to be the best set-up without the Silent Choice problems.

rjcardinal 01-15-2005 02:58 PM

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Corsa makes the system I have. Its been bullet proof. I was so glad to get away from the air system with all the leaks.

Here's a couple of pics of the Corsa solinoids on the brackets I made to adapt them to work with the CMI system.

Edward R. Cozzi 01-15-2005 04:44 PM

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Nice job, RJ.

SSComp 01-15-2005 06:14 PM

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RJ...lookin good

GLH 01-15-2005 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by bajalion
Frankly there does not look like much difference between the high dollar marine one and the cheap tire inflator that you can buy at Walmart.
Any input would be appreciated...

Boom?

SSComp 01-15-2005 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GLH
Boom?

I did say expolion proof :D

dyno 01-18-2005 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by bajalion
Caught me....Final prototypes are done and tested. Production on the way but need a compressor.

I have one! let me know if you need it for testing....

50boat 01-25-2005 10:01 PM

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i don know me and a frend have 96 fountains that are air,no problems. never,,

pullmytrigger 01-27-2005 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 50boat
i don know me and a frend have 96 fountains that are air,no problems. never,,

you know Ive often wondered if my biggest problems are'nt with those pnumatic cylinders themselves but the price merc wants for them Im not going to bother on what amounts to an experiment- Im just going to electric and finally be done with it

US1 Fountain 01-27-2005 09:45 PM

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Had the Merc air on my last boat w/o any problem. Have the electric Corsa on my current one, nonproblem with it either, but it operates so much faster, and with less parts.
As far as the explosion factor using a cheapy air pump, who says you gotta mount it in the engine compartment? The plastic tubing is like $.05 a foot. Mount it elswhere. :rolleyes:

Cat man do 01-29-2005 03:24 PM

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I Had Gaffrigs On My 33 Daytona And Had No Problems, They Would Bleed Off A Little Some Time But Were Very Reliable.

Big Block Billy 08-22-2010 11:40 PM

I believe it's Thomas industries.
The compressor is the same as used on Air Shocks in cars and trucks.
We parted out a custom made 1983 760 Volvo limosine about 10 years ago that happened to have a similar compressor, just bigger.
I am looking for some parts to rebuild some of the units. In the past I have taken mine apart and trimmed the flap down a little so it doesn't dig in to the pipe, at least in the same spot !
I guess I will have to take some apart to figure out bearing and seal dimensions and or numbers.
I believe the housings were cast by Wilcox Crittenden and were anodized.
My friend has been cleaning me out of parts. His get stuck and he hit's actuator arm with a hammer and sometimes breaks them. (2 motors 4 problems !) I would like to not have to weld or fabricate if I could just buy the small parts.
I'm going to rebuild 4 of my diverters for him over the winter to replace his. And then rebuild his.


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