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Old 03-14-2005, 07:42 AM
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My Cig 28SS Has got hoses running everywhere. I'd really like to simplify this system but I'm not sure what I can get away with. Here's what I got for each engine, which are small blocks with TRS.

From the transom pickup, a hose goes to a three way valve which allows a garden hose to be inserted for flushing. Then another hose to the inlet of the sea water pump.

From the sea water pump, there's a hose to a tee fitting that distributes to each "side" of the engine. Each of those hoses has a tee fitting that distributes to an inlet at the top of a thermostat housing (Gil 117044) and to the front of the block, where a conventional water pump would be.

From the outlets of the thermostat housing are another two hoses, agan, one for each "side" of the engine, each going to another tee. One side of the tee goes to the inlet of the exhaust manifold and the other goes to a transom dump regulated by a ball valve.

At the very least, I'd like to eliminate the initial three way valve but I want to maintain the ability to flush the engines. How is this typically done with a transom pickup water inlet?

Any suggestions?
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Would be easier with some pics......i get lost when you say "Each side of the engine"??? At first i thought you were saying that the hose gets split and runs to where the conventional water pump would be...then i read farther and saw you mention it later. SO now i'm confused....
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Thought that would happen. Took me a while to figure it out even looking at the engine. I've got a sketch. I'll see if I can't clean it up and post it somehow.

Maybe this'll help... ...after the tee downstream of the sea water pump it's as though there are two separate cooling circuits. One for each side of the engine.

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Did you buy this boat from Eric? From MI?
If you cant post a pic then email it to me and i'll post it for ya
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Here's a diagram...
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Even though system looks complicated--it's got some great features--multiple fresh water flush ports--which can also be sued to let system ingest anti-freeze as part of winterization process.

I'd be inclined to leave alone--as soon as you change one theing there will be 3 more that will jump out and bite ya--
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And by my count, 30 potential leaks per engine.
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Those 30 leaks still dont add up to the potential of 1 water pump. But if you want simple:
Pickup to water pump. Water pump to a crossover with bypass (from stanless marine or whoever). Thermostat housing to manifolds and dump thru the exhaust.
BTW, I'm not sure if your "ball valve pressure dump" is set up propoerly. It soulds af it maintains backpressure in the system but doesn't prevent overpressure.
With your setup, I suspect you dont have a thermostat. A restrictor should be in place of the thermostat, that will maintain pressure in the block.
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By the looks of it to me it looks like you are asking for an overheating situation on the rear cylinders.....if the supply lines are feeding the ports where the conventional water pump is supposed to be mounted AND going up and feeding the thermostsat housing at the same time how do you get circulation into and through the block??? The front cylinders i can see staying somwhat cool because of the cold lake water.....the water inthe back cylinders i think would be at a standstill? Anyone care to comment on my thoughts? i may be lookng at this wrong......
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The engines seem to run OK like this, but...

Wally, you're seeing the same thing I am. Any Chevy (exluding new reverse cooling engines) I've ever worked on had inlet at front of the block (where an circulating water pump would be) and exit through the manifold.

Gary, the ball valves tend to regulate the amount of water to the manifolds, which are old Stainless Marine log style contraptions.

I'm gonna take the Gil thermostat housing apart and see how it may route water to keep from short circuiting through the front of the block.

Found a pic!

Thanks Guys - I'll look forward to more comments!
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