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I might be ticking off both Organizations with this question,but its all in good faith....

Since I heard that OSS will not be racing in Milwaukee in Sept. and I don't know if they already have a backup venue yet...but...What about everyone putting down the hatches for one weekend and see if we all could race together for one race weekend in N.Y. City over the Sept 11 weekend. No agenda's, no ego's, no nothing...but put on a show for N.Y. for a very important weekend in memorie of 9/11. We have a number of events scheduled for that weekend with the Coast Guard and Home Land Security that will be getting a lot of National exposure. Its the one weekend that will not conflict with both Organizations.....the OSS teams have already planned to race that month so no added equipment failures cost. and most important to see what Offshore racing would be like with 6 or 7 class's having 10+boats racing and even a 20+ boat count in SV.
Screw the bragging rights...and all the BS and problems for one weekend....maybe just put on the biggest Offshore event in N.Y. history and were we all just show up, one time and just shake each others hands in respected and show some respect to the people in N.Y.

This is not to start who's at fault or what Organizations won't agree....no finger pointing...just...is there any chance the people like the Paul W, Bob B, Elane M, John C, the OSS Board, Pop, Dave S, Gary N. the people who are very respected to have just one conversation to see if its even feasible to be done.....

.....and I think you would see there would be a lot of racers, sponsors and fans that would really appreciate all your efforts in seeing it happen...

Just a thought.....Sorry if anyone is offended by the idea....

I even used the spell check for the first time since joining OSO...If I could do something different this one time, maybe we all can do this one time...

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It sure looks good on paper Manitie! :drink:

That would be some event....

But I recall maybe last year, they actually had a 40 boat Maximum Limit on the NY race? :confused:

Does anyone know if this still stands for this year?

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Sharkey....I don't know if it still the same as last year.....I would think it would have been already put out for the 1st 40 boats to register so teams would have not made plans to show....even if that's the case....It would be good to see if the idea was even something that both sides would even consider being that a lot of money could be raised and presented by all, SBI/APBA and OSS to a great cause.

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You would hope so!
I haven't heard any mention of it this year. But I believe it was a security issue that was the reason they had a cap on the number of boats allowed to race.
Maybe someone can fill us in for this year's event?

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That's a tough one Gino, With all the security in NY there were no helicopters allowed in the air. All medical was in the water. I believe that was the real reason for a limited boat count. With all those boats in the Hudson, I think it would tough. Plus I think you can ask anyone who has raced there, hardest water to read and run in. I'll take 6-8 Jersey water any day, at least it is consistant. But what a backdrop for Offshore. Smitty

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I think your right Smitty! Do you know if it is the same for this year? :confused:

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last week I flew over NY in a private plane last year it was restricted I'ts worth a call hope this helps

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Hey Smitty.....I know it would be tough with no helo's...but with it being a big event for the Coast Guard and having the Home Land Security guys being a big part of what we have planned....maybe we could have a large number of rescue boats on the stright aways....We are scheduling a Admiral to attend so we may have a lot of pull to what's needed to be done for everyone to be happy with the safety issuse....
If that was the only issue I would be more than happy to go to DC and see what could be done....

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Gino, how did you make out on that video promo, we're still workin' on donating the use of 6-8 60 inch plazmas for the race only if I can hook-up with the BWORA people on locations and not step on any toes along the way either.....we also can do some of the same in NY seeing that we have an office there on Madison Ave......if not in St. Clair maybe we can do something for the New York Race! :D

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oui,

I sat down with the Coast Guard around two weeks ago....they had no problem with that, but after hearing some disappointing news about OSS, I have decided a couple of weeks ago not to attend.
As far as N.Y. City....Yes, let me know what you can do...this will be a huge weekend for us and promoting the C.G. If you can let me know as soon as possible...

Thanks for the assistance

Gino

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So, You got disappointing news about OSS and wont run with them but lets all get together and support SBI in NYC. I don't know or care what the news was but it just sound funny after your opening post. I'm local and if we dont have a OSS race I would be willing to race in P class if Im a loud! Would you have to pay annual fee's or just race entry fee's?
MD

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SVL4,

So you understand, for this sport to grow and get the sponsors that everone want's and the prize money and tv everyone wants...we as racers are going to have to either race as one or race both Organizations. I don't claim I know the answer to it all...but it dose not take a genius to look back over the last 10 or so years to see...when has Offshore racing every had it as everyone is saying this is what we want?
Have others tried to start new racing Organizations and have they worked....did they land the big name series sponsor or sponsors it takes and set schedules not only to pay the bills and racers but to help teams get sponsors by using there big name in persuring team sponsors....
So you know...I was going to support both Organizations and stay out of all the political BS and as I will still...but anybody can sit here and say they are doing what's best for the sport and the racers....and if you follow the politics and BS..that is just a joke....If the Organizations can land a big name series sponsor with 28-45 boats...good luck...but the passed says different. So for the 80%+ teams..prepared to continue to dig into your own pockets...
But in the mean time lets not forget...we are all racers and have bills to pay, we all put the same on the line as the next team...
So to have certain teams not have to pay fee's and some getting special treatment and others don't....dose not say to me we are watching out for the racers...and to have secret conversations on who will recieve this treatment is just going back to the politcal BS.....and lets see if we can buy some boats to get the count up....it tells me that some teams are not as important as other....and thats good for the sport?
Any race team should not have to worrie if they are getting screw or different treatment...if your going to do things like this....great...at least make it puplic so the racers can see whats going on....not here it from non-racers....that's all.

As far as what I started....I asked if both sides can sit down and see if we can see what this sport can be if we joined forces...and again...it dosn't take a genius to figure out it would be great for the racers, the sport,the sponsors, and the city.....
So...I answered iou's question...don't take it personally...its just the truth...something that if all racers and Organizations did...this sport would be a little bit better....
As far as if you have to pay fee's...call John C.
I tought that since the racers make the decisions in OSS, that maybe you can all take a vote on talking to SBI/APBA

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Gino, It's Randy. I posted under SVL4 by mistake again,sorry.
In reference to your post that people are being miss lead by OSS is wrong! Im sure you are referring to cat outboard getting special registration fees this year. There were no secretes among st the OSS members as to what they were doing and EVERYONE that is a OSS member is OK with what they have done. If you are not a OSS member then why would they need to make it a public statement?
MD

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OK, let's plan to do something in NY, we'll have a little more time than the one coming up this weekend. I'm sorry you won't be at the race, St. Clair simply is a great place for fans and racer's alike.

The idea of getting everybody to the table to join forces can only be to the good of the sport. There's gotta be a way it'll work for everybody!

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Hey Randy....not to get off subject...
I'm a racers just like everyone else...If OSS racers are happy making exceptions for certain class's...that's fine...But there are other racers out there, and again you just as myself and others would like to know if all racers are paying the same...thats why every Organizations post fee's in there handbook...I was just responding to oui why I decided not to do St. Clair.
We as racers really should be all treated as equals...and its only my view, no one elses..
Now back to what I hope we all can be involved in...
Is there any chance the OSS teams would even entertain what I wrote on the first post...
either way...hope you make it to the N.Y. C city race....
Good luck in St. Clair

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oui

I have a meeting on Wed. with the C.G. I will pass on what your trying to do...That will be a great thing if you can get it together...let me know if you need anything from us..

Thanks,
Gino

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Hmmm....that sounds like a familiar offer. ring a bell????

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Your on Mark! Clear it with John C. and I don't see a problem with it. Let me know tomorrow so I can make arrangements.
MD :D

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Mark,

That's a cool thing for you to do...and Randy for excepting...
Maybe sometimes we have to lead by example...

Randy...if you guys put this together...my team has a little something for you guys....( and its a good thing )

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Is that you Gino? Or is it the dog typing again?
MD

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Randy,

Its me....In know it sounds crazy...but if we continue to all go at each other...its not going to do any of us a bit of good.....and maybe we can start getting more teams to come back on hear and not worry about getting blasted everytime they make a comment...like I said...maybe its time we all lead by example and get back to racing like it was a few years back.....
Plus Tundra's in PA. till Aug. then my puppy support runs out and I have to take him back...
Then all hell brakes loose again.....

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Kool....I miss that pup. And He ( or was it she?) got along so well with MD :D

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Gino

I'm still workin' on trying to get some screens up for St.Clair, it'll be a good learning experience I'm sure will help us in the BIG CITY.

Just picture having 42-60 inch plazmas in public areas, subways, airports, turnpikes, highrise buildings, retail stores,hotels, malls, etc. to send the CG message as a community based format. We have many major Metro areas like Philly, Wilmington, Boston, Tampa, part of Jersey, Detroit, I can go on and on.... locked up re: licensing as a "out-of-home" network. Captive audiences with specific market demographics. I'm sure the CG would want to participate, and for that matter we could do something for Offshore Racing in General. We are required to broadcast 15 minutes per hour of Community Content even if it's at a National Level.

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Mark,are you going to be in NY for the race?

Wil

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No need for bodyguards.We will see you there.

Wil

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:D :D

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I believe that race is on Saturday

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Bruce,

I thing Tundra kinda likes the mad puppy to....

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Check SBI website for all the details, but the NYC race is on saturday due to 9/11 ceremonies on sunday. Which means the drivers meeting is on thursday. Just f.y.i.

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YES IM IN!!!!!!!
As long as there is no conflicting dates with OSS that weekend. Is Cory,Shane and Mazakowski all coming with there SVL's? :D
MD

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Tag IM in and we will be there with bells on.

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Nice work Randy and Mark.

The lines are being crossed. :D

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Cory is that bells or ball's????? :evilb:
MD

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OUI, please contact me about bringing the plasmas to St. Clair. Steve Brunner

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oui,

I talked to the Coast Guard last week and they are very interested in the big screen...they have a number of video's they could put on...keep me posted...

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Better make it my big water balls!!!!!
MIGHT NEED THEM
SVL 9 EXTREME LIQUID ASSETS

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Someone please explain to the boatless clown that this is the RACER's Milling Area.

WIL

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There seems to be a problem here with the failure to communicate......

Some people you just can't reach.... ;)