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gdfatha 07-23-2005 05:21 PM

TV coverage getting worse
 
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I saw the Pickwick (?) Tenn. OSS coverage just now.. :mad:

1) 97.45 of the time it displayed only one boat at a time. (YAWN)

2) The sponsor(s) decals on the boat were un readible

3) As presented, I cannot, in my wildest imagination think that this inferior type/quality of cover could attract any newbie/potential fan.

4) Or even attract new sponsors.

5) Showing boats racing without sound is ludicrous. Imagine watching a TV show of NASCAR, IRL, Champ Boat, F1 (land/sea) without sound..

Videos captures are of Lisa M getting sandwiched and TV art shot I guess..

Well, having said that, I'll watch the two tropical depressions play games with our minds..

I have ordained that there will be NO rain during Deerfield Nationals or Key West Worlds..So see ya there..

Don Marco

speed buff 07-23-2005 06:57 PM

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offshore boat racing needs rough water ( ocean ) to be exciting for the fans and tv.

wcmarine 07-23-2005 07:14 PM

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I have to say that was the worst TV coverage I have seen in a long time!!
Definetly rough water makes it better but .............

gdfatha 07-23-2005 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by speed buff
offshore boat racing needs rough water ( ocean ) to be exciting for the fans and tv.

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Oh my friend you are so WRONG...... Competition and quantity is what Offshore needs to feed the ever so entertainment hungry fans.

Here is the scenario:

1) Listening to and reading posts displays that the crews want longer race courses. This means that the time span before there is someting in front of the fan other than a Beer or hot dog allows for about 4-9 minutes to cheer and take a photo.

Have you noticed that the fewer the boats, the more obese the general fan in attendance is?? :eek:

I have been a fan of every class of boating since the early 60s.. (damn that ages me) :( and the main thrust is COMPETITION AND beleive it or not NOISE.

Hell the increasing/rolling thunder of the start of the Offshore races or any turbine/inboard is almost orgasmic.

Some driver recently complained about short courses causing sharp turns. Hell, if that is the general attitude go and run 8 mile one way drag races. I thought that racing included, competition, speed and skill (I'm not forgetting costs). But before you do, go buy the fans a 1000mm lens and binocular) :drink: along with a book on the South Beach Diet...

Super fan

Don Marco..

BRUCE SEROFF 07-23-2005 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KLAATU
Marc , I want to add to that, but can't .

They don't care what we see , It's what they see !

Not just OSS , it's all of them ! The fight is so BIG to them they see nothing else .

I have been in this fight along with you for a while now .

Funny , but we're the bad guy's for our opinion's as fan's .

Offshore racing is dying at the hand's of it's master's !

( Bruce & Smitty leave your'e violence at the door step , You have no place with me . )

:rolleyes: No violence .....your an IDIOT!!!!

ratman 07-23-2005 08:22 PM

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im not a racer just a fan and cig owner, that race was boring as h3ll to watch you counldn't see jack, the anouncers were so impressed with themselves the ran thier mouths the entire time there is only a few bits here and there where you can actually hear the boats engines. peir 57 getting sandwiched was the high light of the race. one boat in the frame at a time is boring...

georges 07-23-2005 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gdfatha
I saw the Pickwick (?) Tenn. OSS coverage just now.. :mad:

1) 97.45 of the time it displayed only one boat at a time. (YAWN)

2) The sponsor(s) decals on the boat were un readible

3) As presented, I cannot, in my wildest imagination think that this inferior type/quality of cover could attract any newbie/potential fan.

4) Or even attract new sponsors.

5) Showing boats racing without sound is ludicrous. Imagine watching a TV show of NASCAR, IRL, Champ Boat, F1 (land/sea) without sound..

Videos captures are of Lisa M getting sandwiched and TV art shot I guess..

Well, having said that, I'll watch the two tropical depressions play games with our minds..

I have ordained that there will be NO rain during Deerfield Nationals or Key West Worlds..So see ya there..

Don Marco


I completely agree with you. As an Offshore race fan since 1994, I have seen the sanctioning bodies come and go.
Just when it seems to finally come together...........there they go again.......!!!!
They rotate about every 2 to 3 years!. :rolleyes:

gdfatha 07-23-2005 09:47 PM

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Fevah..

I remember..Unlimited hydros, F1.s my only complaint for the US races was too many interviews little racing.

The producing of the UIM F1s and Class 1 around the world were very well done.

TYPHOON 07-23-2005 11:19 PM

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I have not seen it but heard it was bad. I agree with Fever that the best was with APBA in 2002 at its peek on Speed Channel. Lots of boats in F1 and F2 made for some great coverage and just plain fun to watch.
MD :mad:

MANITIE 07-24-2005 09:08 AM

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Fever Mike,

I also have to agree....the TV in 2000-2003 was not only great deck to deck racing with 3 and 4 boats and in some big sea's...I have all the tapes of the F1 guys..and there was deck to deck racing even in 9th and 10th place...its what helped us were we are today with our sponsors...and I still show those tapes when pitching new sponsors...just so they can see the excitement first hand...Martin an Dick did a great job....

Pete B 07-24-2005 09:36 AM

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It certainly wasnt the best but it wasnt the worst either it was boat racing on TV, it is hard to re-capture the excitement with only one or two cameras, but those also cost money. as a second year group they are doing well.

gdfatha 07-24-2005 12:08 PM

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Pete

Constructive criticism (aka: Lessons learned) can only help a newbie production company. Sponsor and fan appreciation can help all involved.

Another suggestion is to consider the interviews to be incorporated into a picture in picture format. That way,more race time viewing is available.

I'll not ask at this time for a copy cat format of the 2002-2003 UIM F1 boat racing sponsor logos overlayed on the screen or the same for the start finish line without any interruption to viewing the racing action.

Also, since the Helos used in Offshore go faster than the racers (Unlike Unlimited Hydro Races) the helos can position better to get additional angles showing more than one boat at a time.

I beleive most of the above can be accomplished in the post race review during insertion of station commercials..

Take care

Hope to see you in Deerfield..

Ron P 07-24-2005 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by FeverMike
Anyone remember the top quality TV shows APBA had on Speed Channel back in 2000-2003?

It was the adult version of Sat Morning cartoons. By that I mean, it was how each weekend was started. 10am Sat on Speed, and it was great racing, and great coverage.

There were some things that Mike A did really, really well.

highnoon49 07-24-2005 09:34 PM

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As a few of you have already said, the 2003-04 season on Speed Channel was the best boat racing on tv ever. I have to say, I will probably always be a huge fan of 4,5,6,7 turn courses, because it called for much wilder action. Is there anyone that we can talk to about the coverage instead of compalining to each other about it? I don't know who to say anything to but if I did I would. Also, did anyone read the article in Powerboat/Poker Runs of America magazine (I can't remember) regarding the OSS TN race? I didn't race there nor did I see it as a spectator, but the article was horrible. There was nothing mentioned about the race, just about the sponsors and the activities before the race. Pathetic.

-Junior

Ron P 07-24-2005 10:24 PM

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That was Poker Runs.

Hope you like the upcoming article in EBM better.

mwdill 07-25-2005 05:46 AM

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hell, i have not seen the first one!
wish they would come on the same channel same time every week like back in 02 on speed.


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