OPA speed brackets
#11
Bill I already spoke to Eddie Simmons. he is racing. Their boat was so far off the mark on Point Pleasant, you cant expect the rest of the fleet to slow down and wait for you. Ask Mark H. He was telling me how suprised he was when Lavey tore them up. The Lavey doesnt even run 80. How fast is your boat? The Limit of 115 has been to keep the racing safe with smaller boats on the same race coarse. Never did we state that P4 would be a single engine class.
#12
Originally Posted by 1HYPER1
Smitty and Augie,I am not trying to piss you off,I have a boat that I can run I just cant see racing it in P1 or P2 where it should be because even when I try to prop it down it does not fit in the classes you have unfortunetly.I am a huge fan of the P classes,but feel there are some needed changes,thats all.Also we were told last year that the twins and singles would not run together in P4,correct me if Mark H and I were not told that Smitty,that is the main reason that Eddie Simmons has not been racing with OPA,as for Faster Daddy,I am not whining,I am stating facts that in fact would benifit you,it should not matter what the water conditions are you should be competitive against one another week in and week out,Period.
We've been through this topic time and time again. Your perfect world exists. its called Spec class. and you can find it with SBI or OSS. If thats what you want, go buy a boat to race with them.
You will never get the parity that you are seeking in P class because you have 5 classes to fit too many different boats and powers combos. Is it perfect ? NO. Does it work? Sometimes. Its been stated in other posts, If you want to race, build a boat to fit into a specific class. Im not sure what kind of boat you have, but if you cant prop down to run 115, you dont belong in P-class. Im sure Its difficult to have one of the fastest Poker Run boats and then come and try to fit into a P-class.
If you really want to race, and its sounds like you do. Go buy a boat that fits into a specific class.
What bothers me more than anything, is not someone complaining that the rules are fair or unfair. But a non current racer or equipment owner who complains all the time and makes little or no effort to get out on the water. If you don't think you can prop down and fit into a class, fine. you will not race and thats your choice. Therfore, you should have NO say in how the rules are developed or enforced.
Just my opinion....No offense intended
PS...And, if possible, could you please use spaces between your sentences? Your posts are difficult to read.
thanks
#13
Oh ....one more thing. We were never told that twins would not be running in P-4. We were told the more Dominant P-4 boats would run P-3 and the more dominant P-3 boats, would move up to P-2. This would make it possible for the more dominant P-5 boats ie: faster single/27,28 footers to move up to P-4 and allow for the smaller 24, 26 foot boats and SOBs to have some fair competition in P-5. That didnt happen because the boat count, early in the season, didnt warrant it. The only way to get the faster more dominant 27/28 foot boats out of P-5, is to make it possible for them to compete in P-4. I shouldnt neccessarily say faster 28 foot boats, Because there are some 24s that are faster than some of the 28s.
Once again...just my opinion.
Once again...just my opinion.
#14
Hyper, not to pick on you, but if your going to biotch about the rules, at least offer some reasonable solutions. Just biotching does nothing. If you can't clearly see an answer, then niether can anyone else.
We know it's not perfect, never said it was....
Why don't you run in PX with JEM and some others in Cambridge?
We know it's not perfect, never said it was....
Why don't you run in PX with JEM and some others in Cambridge?
#15
Smitty, I think the racers in general don't have as big a problem with the brackets and speeds of the brackets. It would seem to be the question of how will you monitor and enforce the rules. This is going to be what really keeps people coming back for more. Now the stakes are higher with purse money and people are going to expect a fare shake at the money. What ideas do you have in mind to make this happen? Are you looking for suggestions or do you have this taken care of?
I am so proud of OPA and all the momentum that is building in P class.Keep up the great work guys.
GREAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS
AVERAGE PEOPLE TALK THINGS
SMALL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
I think OPA are GREAT PEOPLE
MD
I am so proud of OPA and all the momentum that is building in P class.Keep up the great work guys.
GREAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS
AVERAGE PEOPLE TALK THINGS
SMALL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
I think OPA are GREAT PEOPLE
MD
#16
Bruce what makes you think I am not an equipment owner or going to race because you are wrong I just dont happen to agree with what I am seeing,I will be at the meeting to here what everyone has to say and than make my decision at that time.Ron P I am not biotching and I have presented solutions in the past as well as many others but they were not interested in them,Mark has made many suggestions as well but also he was told,no changes will be made.Do you still have your B&M sucks signs,see I have been around for a while and I do appreciate all of the efforts that go in to promoting this sport,you are going to have alot of boats this year thanks to those efforts and Mr Haggin,lets hope it lasts.Bruce sorry about my typing and running everything together,not one of my specialties.
#18
Ron I do have photos of the signs,I will send them to you I will hook you up.Blasterbro,I will not go and beat up my equipment to say I had fun,I want to win and have fair competition period.PS my boats are not crap.I hope Reggie doesnt read your post.
#19
Originally Posted by 1HYPER1
,as for Faster Daddy,I am not whining,I am stating facts that in fact would benifit you,it should not matter what the water conditions are you should be competitive against one another week in and week out,Period.
We are competitive, week in and week out! We are not asking for any rule changes we like the challenge of running with different types of boats. Like I said before, it was the most fun we had racing all year.
You on the other hand sound like you are affraid of a challenge or the competition. My young girls don't bi$%h and whine as much as you do. Just my .02
Brian
#20
Originally Posted by TYPHOON
Smitty, I think the racers in general don't have as big a problem with the brackets and speeds of the brackets. It would seem to be the question of how will you monitor and enforce the rules. This is going to be what really keeps people coming back for more. Now the stakes are higher with purse money and people are going to expect a fare shake at the money. What ideas do you have in mind to make this happen? Are you looking for suggestions or do you have this taken care of?
I am so proud of OPA and all the momentum that is building in P class.Keep up the great work guys.
GREAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS
AVERAGE PEOPLE TALK THINGS
SMALL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
I think OPA are GREAT PEOPLE
MD
I am so proud of OPA and all the momentum that is building in P class.Keep up the great work guys.
GREAT PEOPLE TALK ABOUT IDEAS
AVERAGE PEOPLE TALK THINGS
SMALL PEOPLE TALK ABOUT PEOPLE
I think OPA are GREAT PEOPLE
MD





