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Old 12-28-2006 | 09:23 AM
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[QUOTE=TYPHOON;1974863]Steve that's another way of looking at it. Unfortunately its not what most of the racers are willing to do! And we are back to Square one. All of the other organization are run as a non profit structure and even the racers pay to play at that. With so many people working so hard for free to promote the sport it just makes it so hard to see someone profit off all the hard working volunteers. It just doesn't seem to rub people the right way. I know of 50 other teams that think the same way I do and if you don't believe me wait till November again and find out again.
So knowing now how so many feel how can we possibly fix the problem of one mans domination of a place that should be the Worlds for all? Is there room for negotiation? How much would it cost to buy the site? Its obviously all about the money for JC and not the sport so what will it take?

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If it was all about money for John C he would have choosen a different professison than "Powerboat Racing Promoter". I have very good intelligence about the economics of this, and trust me, few people would line up to do that job for what it pays. If you have ever seen him stand up in front of the Racers, you would know he actually likes it, he enjoys it, and it becomes cer clear in short order if you are paying attention. I believe that is why he is doing it.

I don't think that silencing intrested parties on these matters is the way to deal with it because I don't see other forums for proposed solutions. Are there meetings scheduled to suggest alternatives?, are we the only ones that care?.

For a few years this was looked at as a business opportunity by Allweiss and it grew to new levels of participation, so why is that thinking (taking him personally out of the picture) condemmed now, because you and 49 other teams think it didnlt work, or wonlt work when it obviously did. Are they dynamics so different.

I am also a Racer, have been since 1992 and have spent a fortune like a lot of people, donated lots of time, flew to many a TV Studio all over the county to do "for free" color commentary for years, and I have absolutely no problem participating in an event where the Promoter is tryig to make money from the event, as long as I get platform to do what I want to do (have fund and race) in return. If the Promoter is not for profit, that is also fine, I am doumfounded as to why it would make any difference at all as long as the Racer is getting what they bargained for.

Help me out on this if you can with some commentary.

Thanks,

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Old 12-28-2006 | 04:56 PM
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Rich (aka TX2), you are just Mr. F'n sunshine huh.. as usual. I mean you have such a vast knowledge base, any chance on making apositive suggestion once in awhile?

Rich, how can we accomplish this?.

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I make many suggestions.

We have more than enough cheerleaders. and that cheering has gotten the sport nowhere. Catering to racer's egos has been the common thread that has consistently brought this sport down. The buying public (The people who your sponsors want to attract) have repeatedly tuned out multi class racing....... deal with it..... or bury your heads in the sand.

What is needed is less rah rah...and more cold water.

I suggest, .......again, a critical self assessment be made, as in any failing business plan, new leadership, new goals, and a budget based cash management program. Couple this to a marketing plan focused solely on the premier class (and I don't care if that's Super Cat or SOB) to create some singular identity in the public's mind.

Unification is a must but it will only be accomplished by (and after) creating a successful series....not vice versa.

Now rave on with this circular conversation which is , at this writing, at least 30 years old and going stronger than the sport itself.


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Old 12-28-2006 | 05:03 PM
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Wow, here I am agreeing with T2X again. Steve
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This could be dangerous......

Happy New Year to you and yours........

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Old 12-28-2006 | 05:38 PM
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Congradulations to SBI/APBA and AMF for all their combined efforts to make this happen for next year. Round one is done and the rest should be easy. 2007 is shaping up to be one of the most exciting years in Offshore history.
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Old 12-28-2006 | 08:44 PM
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Congradulations to SBI/APBA and AMF for all their combined efforts to make this happen for next year. Round one is done and the rest should be easy. 2007 is shaping up to be one of the most exciting years in Offshore history.
Rah Rah Sis Boom bah! lol Sorry T2x I was Cheerleading again. To expect JC to run his business and not turn a profit is wrong! Whats also wrong is the fact that Promoters in this case do not pay the performers, Boxers don't pay to fight, Musical entertainers don't pay to play. I could give a turd if JC makes a million on each race, in fact I wish he did, he works hard to make his races happen. Being fair thats the ticket. T , I don't care about what didn't happen in the past, that was then this is now, like Xtreme say's look foward to THE most exciting year in Offshore history.
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Old 12-28-2006 | 11:03 PM
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Usually just an observer here since I quit racing, but I must make a quick point.

Do you think the France family got to be on the list of richest American's by running NASCAR as a non-profit?

I HATE the comparisons here to NASCAR, but thought in this case it was justified.

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Old 12-28-2006 | 11:28 PM
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Thanks For supporting the extreme Classes!




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Old 12-28-2006 | 11:58 PM
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wow mark, lets make it the best offshore year period. race here, race there. race your heart out. we will unify soon
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Old 12-29-2006 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by TYPHOON
Steve that's another way of looking at it. Unfortunately its not what most of the racers are willing to do! And we are back to Square one. All of the other organization are run as a non profit structure and even the racers pay to play at that. With so many people working so hard for free to promote the sport it just makes it so hard to see someone profit off all the hard working volunteers. It just doesn't seem to rub people the right way. I know of 50 other teams that think the same way I do and if you don't believe me wait till November again and find out again.
So knowing now how so many feel how can we possibly fix the problem of one mans domination of a place that should be the Worlds for all? Is there room for negotiation? How much would it cost to buy the site? Its obviously all about the money for JC and not the sport so what will it take?
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Candy,

nothing on the post above, but I keep reading your latest posts over and over again and I cant get over how eloquent you have become. You learned how to spell and all of your statements are clear. I must say I am very impressed with your grammatical skills improving so dramatically. Its almost as if someone else is using your screen name, but nah cant be, you would never break the TOS of Offshore Only.

Whether people agree with your opinion or not it is a pleasure to have an intelligent conversation with you. This is how things move forward. Keep it up!!

Best to ya this year and be safe

Trent

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Old 12-29-2006 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by F1-00 Racing
Candy,

nothing on the post above, but I keep reading your latest posts over and over again and I cant get over how eloquent you have become. You learned how to spell and all of your statements are clear. I must say I am very impressed with your grammatical skills improving so dramatically. Its almost as if someone else is using your screen name, but nah cant be, you would never break the TOS of Offshore Only.

Trent
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