P1 Naples
 

Lots of American built boats in the races this coming weekend.

2 Fountains, 2 Donzis, Outerlimits, Cigarette and a Skater.

http://www.powerboatp1.com/public/ve...events_id=4770

Don't forget the Dragon in Super Sport......

Should have said in Evolution Class.

Super Sport has Dragon of course, a Formula and a diesel powered Hustler.

From this link they better have strainers as well!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18830866/site/newsweek/

A little puff or two from Vesuvius should take care of that.

do you think the cigarette racing has the boat in P1? it looks thay do't have any!

Starflite,
I don't know if I read the results right but I think the new fountain King of Shaves took first today.
Do you know the full results??

By the looks of it, King of Shave's competition had stopped to assist:


"19 boats started the race, providing a dramatic spectacle for the large crowds packed along the shoreline who were treated to further drama with overtaking, retirements - including the third placed Metamarine craft of Fainplast- and a flip! This happened on lap five as OSG, battling for position with Wettpunkt, 'hooked' 360 degrees before flipping onto its side. It was a heart-stopping moment followed by a huge act of sportsmanship as both Wettpunkt and the American Lucas Oil - Outerlimits team stopped to monitor the situation and respond to any emergency that might unfold. Thankfully, both pilots emerged unscathed although wet and shaken and both Wettpunkt and Outerlimits were able to continue racing - Wettpunkt finishing second and Outerlimits third."

Evolution Class



Pos. - No. - Boat Name - Nationality - Points

1. - 99 - King of Shaves - British - 100

2. - 81 - Wettpunkt.com - Austrian - 80

3. - 97 - Outerlimits - American - 60



53 - Pignolo 53 - Italian - DNF

57 - Limmi - Belgian - DNF

59 - The Way of Happiness - Italian - DNF

64 - Fainplast - Italian - DNF

67 - The Switch - French - DNF [Wild Card]

75 - SIF - Italian - DNF [Wild Card]

88 - OSG Racing - Italian - DNF

90 - Kiton - Italian - DNF

Yep, Fountain Worldwide first in Evolution.

Dragon was 5th in Super Sport due to a sensor problem.

Results here.

http://proprider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=135&page=2

Nice first run for Fountain World Wide keep it up

Doubly impressive as the Fountain/Ilmore combination was something of an unknown quantity. Guess it's not an unknown quantity now.

It's awesome to see the same boat that I race here run well over there.
I guess Michael can't run from us.

Maybe Michael will quit P1 (cancleling the RI race) also next if you want to race I will be in Hollywood (SBI) and Jacksonville (OSS) and I don't think you can call P1, OSS, and SBI all cheaters or maybe the rich boy can???? I have never seen anyone cry so much if they don't win.
Love,
Brett

I don't see him runnin' from you Brett. He just would like more than 1 other boat to race against and it seems he has found the place to do just that. If or when they win something they would have worked hard for it and put some real meaning behind it.

He wasn't running from anyone when he wanted to race in Key West along with Donzi, Firewater and Rio Roses now was he?

We all know how that played out. :chick:

It's just too bad to see all those Fountains run from the OSS Super Vee Class once the Outerlimits came onto the circuit. :confused:

Congrats to King of Shaves.

Unfortunately there wasn't much pressure on them today when 2nd and 3rd place boats made a stop to assist and everyone else was a DNF. But a win is a win.

Tomorrow is another day.

Hopefully there will be no issues and they can all be racing to the end within seconds of each other.:drink:

How much are they paying you Sharkey?

Hey Sharkey (seemed like a nice guy when I met you in St. Clair last year)I don't blame you they have alot of money and I would do whatever they said also if I were you but I'm not and can't be bought.
I just want them to race me here in the states because Fountain isn't running.

Sharkey was joe, nigel or michel in the boat this weekend???

About the same as the Fountain boat "On The Chip", the Fountain boat Strictly Business, the Fountain boat Wazzup and Team Miccosukee in Destin 2006.

Basicly Brett, I usually try to call it how "I" see it.

I have not spoken to Joe, Mike or yourself since Destin.

So there is no need to insinuate they are asking me to post anything here for them.

Same goes for the other teams. When they have put on a great performance I applauded them as well. If I had photos of them in full flight, I have posted them too!

With having been a boat builder myself back in the day, I do appreciate everything a lot more on what goes into making the Outerlimits superior to the other manufacturer's quality.
They are bringing boat building of hi-performance powerboats to a whole new level. I always felt Skater was #1 with their laminations, but I feel that now that OL has even superceded them.
If I knew more about the Dragon, perhaps I would throw them into the mix with maybe Doug Wright with his cats.
Unfortunately I have limited resources on their products.

I just post "my" opinions. I don't expect everyone to agree with them nor should they have to...

Good luck selling your Vee and I hope to see you run in Super Cat Light.

I prefer to see a Championship won against at least a few other competitors.

Have safe racing whatever you choose to do...

Sharkey

Brett,
I can't keep quiet anymore, OL ran away from you and racing in this country. No matter what you say, these guys will find a reason to say OL was right and how sportman like the are and so on. At our drivers meetings, we are told if a boat goes over, give them room and DO NOT stop to assist because we can and will interfere with the rescue divers and safety boats, putting a few extra orange helmets in the water just confuses the rescuers. The sad part is that it's not just OL who is ducking out, where is Donzi, Cig, Skater, Phantom and all the other guys this year? The BS of how great it is over sea's is making me wretch, it's great that we have boats competing over there to help with sales for the manufacturers, but what I still can't figure is how it is finacially smart to lose the American buyers. For all that Fountain has done for the offshore arena, he is still destined to be the bad guy or should I say the King of the hill, that all the others want to topple. Brett your boat looks and runs great, keep the faith, things will come around. And maybe you can race a few OPA races with us this year? As far as Sharkey, he's not a bad guy. He just has a big HO for Fountain lol and an unbridled love for OL.
Someday I will find out why. We are heading to Algonac this week, to kick the snot out of a cat that lives there.
Be Well, Louie

PS We never gave Sharkey a dime ( though he does have some incriminating pictures of me)

Louie,
When you say, "all the other guys" I assume you mean where are the five (5) other Fountains this year...?
#76 Pier 57, #37 Pier 57, Muscle, Wazzup, and Black Pearl.

So do I safely assume you are saying that 5 other Fountains ran away from Miccosukee as well ? :confused:

If you were to get them all back to racing here in the US, I'm sure that you would see Outerlimits race in the US again.

Hell, I have even heard Bad Boys stopped their new Super Vee boat campaign.

So what is the answer?

Apparently if people don't like what they see is happening in the US and they can find what they want elsewhere, you can't blame them for going elsewhere. (Isn't that how OPA was created ?)

Outerlimits will be able to have it all now. They will be able to see how they compare to the Donzis, Skaters, Metamarine, Fabio Buzzi Design, Fountain and Cigarette. Currently a total of 10 boats in the Evolution Class and growing.

So they have the competition from several countries, big seas, a good organization from what I have seen so far, a huge fan base and Worldwide Television . All of this with about 20 boats and 2 classes. Go figure? :eek:

Quote from P1 website:
"The 2007 UIM Powerboat P1 World Championship will have arguably the most extensive television coverage in the history of performance boat racing, reaching across four continents and a potential audience of more than 100 million viewers.

Through a balanced mix of terrestrial, satellite and cable television, Powerboat P1 action will be broadcast throughout Europe and into countries as diverse as Brazil, Canada, India, Russia and South Africa as the appeal of this exciting and glamorous motorsport championship continues to gather momentum."

And without being bias, I still take and post photos of you're boat.... :evilb:

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/s...d.php?t=147113



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Tim,
I'm not arguing that point, Supervee needs some serious revamping, I've said this before. The older Fountains don't have much of a chance against the new Fountains or the OL and Skater for that matter. I'm not blaming OL for the current state of SV but they also didn't help it either. It goes deeper then that, like the way there isn't any parity between SBI SV and OSS SV. Wazzup being an earlier model 38 was very competitive, but they were driven away from OSS SV. I don't know the plans of the other SV's but we are racing class 2 and having fun. The ego's of 2 manufacturers has decimated SV racing, there needs to be a solution. In the states, us bracket racers have been knocked and called beginers, but bring the same format to europe and wallah you have a stroke of genius. I have no great love for the OSS, but when 20 boats show up at a race, they were called losers, 20 boats show up in Malta and its great racing, thats BS. As far as Brett is concerned, he has a new fast boat, shows up to race, no matter who is there or should I say isn't there, he deserves credit not ridicule, wake up people and support our sport in this country as well as oversea's.

The American Cowboy,Louie

PS thanks for the great pictures, they keep us going.

Fountain Worldwide/King of Shaves goes two for two.

http://www.proprider.com/forum/showt...sted=1#post829

Cool! I wonder when there gonna post it on OSO the OL win was up there as it happened and hasn't been off since LOL,
unbiased my keester!! I heard a rumor OL is going to campaign Antarctica! LOL. Happy Memorial Day, Louie

Sharkey,
Have you found the full results from todays race.
I think Fountain won again which is really incredible because they just put that boat in the water.

:confused:

Louie,

How is it the older Fountain "Wazzup" was very competitive and the other older Fountains don't have a chance against the new Fountain ? :confused:

Wazzup Team did their homework, reworked the bottom and took weight out of the old boat.

Why is it the other teams didn't put in the time as Wazzup did? Or perhaps it was something else? How about them hard to get Herring Props ? I recall for sometime that the runaway Fountain boat(s) were always in possession of the props that the other racers could not get.:rolleyes: As I said in the past, if they weren't available to everyone, they should not have been allowed to be used.

I see now if the changes made by Fountain season to season are that drastic that it makes his boats obsolete for the following season how it could become a very expensive class to go racing in.
The racers would need a new boat every year.
God bless him for making such improvements, but perhaps he should have found away to update the older hulls too? Then again, why would he? He wants them all to buy new boats every year.:drink:

Thank God for OPA. If these obsolete SV boats choose to race in P2, they have a place to go. Hopefully many will show up for Ocean City.

Congratulations to Craig Wilson & James Sheppard !

Sure did!

Nice job by the Brits !

Brett,

How would you like to come race Ocean City, Md with OPA?

I am sure they can find some competition there for you! :evilb:

I would like to be proven wrong that the older Fountain boats don't have a chance against you...:evilb:

On The Chip would really make you work hard for a win. Ask Tom Abrams :D

What do you say?

You up for a challenge?:evilb:


P.S.
I hope you enjoyed the Big Air in Ocean City thread Brett.
It truely shows what you can expect to find there.





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We will be at Ocean City, that I can promise. With out going back and forth over this. I agree herings gave a huge advantage, that has changed with the advent of Throttle up CNC props ( we have some herings for sale), Smitty and Anthony are top gun racers, as well as ultra dail in men, We can never thank them enough for the speed they found in our boat, which they openly shared with us. As far as why teams have not shown to race SV, I'm sure the economy has something to do with it. Its a perplexing dilemma, on one hand we want to keep the boats competitive with one another and at the same time want guys like Reggie and Mike to R&D the hulls to make them faster. I would think a solution would be to cap the top speeds for racing (adjusted yearly) and put more emphasis on the Kilo runs where the manufacturers can flaunt there speed accomplishments. This would eliminate a lot of the "who is cheating BS" and give the slower hulls the option to kick up the power a bit, to compete.
Gino has been talking about this, we have at the OPA, I think it's just a matter of time. And about the obsolete old SV remark, I asked Brett if he could come to a few OPA races with his SV to run class 2, Fountain or not we ain't planning on being behind him! WOO HOO!!!!
Louie

:evilb: Bring it on! :evilb:
:drink: :D :D

Its nice when the Fountain weighs 550lbs less and the water is completely fountain flat. The Outerlimits got hosed down at the start and ended up in dead last. They couldnt get the boat dried out and going again until the fourth lap. Then they moved through the pack and finished 9 seconds out of second place. We'll see what happens in Germany when the Outerlimits makes some key adjustments.

To quote Sharkey "Bring it on!" :evilb: Wah Wah wah Fountain weighs less, the sun was in my eyes, lol. The water was too flat. Less griping and more racing.

Pics from Naples.

http://www.proprider.com/forum/showt...p?t=135&page=3

Starflite,

How can I open these pictures if I am not member of proprider???

DoD

These are some real nice pictures, Driver of Donzi, I'm pretty sure you can join real easy.

As Louie said, it's easy, just click on the register icon on the top left hand side.

Louie,

This came directly from the writer for P1 Powerboat. I don't see any reason why an official press release from the sanctioning body would be griping about anything. They are just stating the facts of what transpired during the race.

And of course a "lake design" (pad) will always run faster in flat water over a "true vee". I think everyone knows that...:evilb:

I just want to know why the weight penalty was put onto the OL? :confused:

Hey Tim,
Look at the crew in that boat!! Joe Scro and Nigel Hook, I'm surprised they didnt put a 1000#s in the boat to slow those guys down! Now for your whoopin! Call it a lake design, pond design, bath tub design, I'll just call it a winning design!! lol.
They won again didn't they? :p Louie

From my limited experience a weight penalty is usually imposed when a boat comes in light. I would ask the writer for P 1 Powerboat, since he seems to know everything.
Also if 3rd place was exceptional, what do you call 1st?:cool:
Louie

P1 racing is really a fantastic series, they are very professional and cant thank them enough for their hospitality!
The Foutain Worldwide boat is unbelievable! It is by far the best boat I've throttled!
The first race started with us and the donzi battling for the lead, we got by half way through lap one and had a 20 second lead before he went over! Wettpunkt and OL stopped for look buy by the time we came round and saw the boat over the drivers were out and already going to shore. We had a 1min 50sec lead. We slowed down until the lead was back to 18 seconds and got back to racing pace!!
Second race. The start was crazy with 10 Evo boats heading to one little turn buoy!! OL were slower than us, Wettpunkt and Kiton and got squeezed out ( Mike even admitted after race that he back out of it and wasnt prepared to rub paint!)
We got to turn one first and never looked back pulling out 30 sec lead !
P1 competition is tough and although most names arent familiar to most, they are highly ranked in Europe!
At least 8 of 10 have a boat that can win!
As for the flat water comment!!....With at least 15 Cruise and tour ships leaving the port every 60 mins, the swells out there were large. Check out the picture on Team profiles under Fountain Worldwide, we are 6 feet out of the water!!!!
OL had a weight penalty because they were under the power to weight ratio. Rules are rules!!! no penalty!
We won fair and square! Let us enjoy it without bashing!!!
Craig.

Good run Graig now go do it again